| </span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (harami,) The argument "well, we have had billions of years for evolution to happen" doesn't cut it because random effects cannot produce the changes seen from protozoa/bacteria to mammalian forms in this time span. Nearly everyone admits that most random effects are counter productive, for example. <hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'>
Random effects? You are totally cutting out natural selection-which when considered makes your position come up clearly as a strawman. |