[Osborn F Enready]

Starboy said:
I understand that you are stating your view of your traditions. I have no argument with that. I rejoice that you have the freedom to practice your traditions and hope that your family will be able to do so for as many generations as it wishes to. Please explain to me why you wouldn't want others to do the same even if they do not share your particular traditions. And I fail to see why this has anything to do with what traditions are practiced by the majority and those that are not. In a land of freedom it shouldn't matter a bit as long as there is freedom for everyone. But as I see it you are not content to have freedom for yourself, you will not be happy unless you deny it to those that do not share your particular traditions, majority or no majority.

I say: Though it is going against one of my buddies on this site, I have to agree here 100%. This is an issue Pat and I have never seen eye to eye on, and though he knows I absolutely respect him and his opinions I feel he is 180 degrees out on the right thing to do.

If we remove government from all religion, we have true freedom of religion, and the ability to practice traditional values with the exception being represented in a local, county, state or federal government property.
The way Patrick is advocating, it supresses the rights of some, to prosper the majority. This is unacceptable, and clearly against the original founders of this systems intentions, regardless of their personal beliefs in religion.

There is clearly supposed to be a seperation of church and state.

Patrick Henry said: Gee, Osborn, what's with the CAPS?


I say: As I usually do, just using the caps to highlight the topic point, not to incinuat yelling or shouting. Sorry if it seemed that way.

Patrick Henry said:
Traditionalism isn't wrong. It's the Gov that intruded long ago that is causing problems.

I say: I couldn't agree more. Homosexual marriage is an issue for the church to sort out, and issue a declaration on. The churchs, all religious people, libertarians, athiests, and all people should unite to remove religion from government, and then true freedom or religion could be practiced, and the state or fed will not be ASKING the church to marry people based on THEIR advisement.