| QUOTE Suburbanite
> 1. I don't owe anyone anything for them simply living and sucking at life
The world has given you lots, especially while growing up. Count the ways, the lives people have saved, transformed and helped through their voluntary kindness.
> 2. I work for my money and my education, it isn't impossible for everyone else, at any time in their lives, to go and do the same.
of course it is, thats precisely why we have welfare. Schizophrenia, idiocy, personality problems, etc.
> 3. I can't really afford to pay for other people to live either; I am just making it on my own.
Your 32 hours a week more than pays for the essentials, what youre just making is just the standard of living youve got your sights set on. To illustrate this, go tell a Nigerian youre only just making it on $xxx a week and time how long they laugh for.
> I go to school for 30 hours a week (18 units) and I work for 32 hours a week, I don't even get much fun time. Yet for my hard work some lazy fuck gets to eat? No. It shouldn't work that way. I spent two months trying to get a job, but you know what happened? I got one! And I've got a shit resume. No work experience, not college degree, I really don't even have a high school diploma, and yet I got hired, imagine that.
You're lucky, youre sane and capable. Have you ever tried to do business with someone who's mentally ill? Its hopeless. Have you ever tried to do business with someone who's mind bogglingly thick? Its counterproductive. Have you ever watched someone with personality problems and seen why no-one wants to hire them? Have you found out how impossible it is to work with or employ the criminally insane?
The reality is that in every country without welfare there are people starving, begging and stealing to try to stay alive - and many fail. If they could get a job, they would.
> And it isn't like trade school is unaffordable either.
A trade career is not accessible to those that have no credible chance of passing, schizophrenics, etc etc. I'll stick my neck out and say youve never worked with the mentally ill, homeless, etc, you seem to take what youve got for granted.
> So I am very sorry if those who in their life put an effort out there don't want to pay for some lazy fat pregnant whore and here three retarded children who in the mostly likely of situations wouldn't have the slightest bit of respect for you and would more likely than not ramble on and on to you about the poor misfortunes of their lives.
Stereotyping like that is generally used as a way to justify a point of view of rejection. In reality the poor come in all kinds, albeit with a greater incidence of serious personality problems. I would sure like to know that if I have a kid that gets lost in life, they will always be able to eat.
> In a society there are these privileged people who make a decent salary and have a decent education and enough free time to develop a sense of pity for the poor that leads to this kind of butchering of America's hard working class of people.
no-one is being butchered. Welfare enables people to stay alive.
> There is not one reason but invented pity to explain why in the world we are paying welfare.
Its called giving a monkeys about our fellows, morality, etc. And providing a safety net for yourselves. Doesnt mean you have to like them, just let them live.
There are other reasons to pay them too. If you dont theyll turn to crime, and that wll cost you more and cause greater personal suffering. It just doesnt make any kind of sense to not pay them enough to stay alive. No-one wins that way.
> And it is really unfortunate that your pity costs me money. Donate if you give a shit about these people, don?t force everyone else who doesn?t to pay.
It would be foolish of you to not pay, and thereby cut yourself off from any chance of such help in future. Part of the naivety of being young is the belief that one can not possibly fall. Truth is people from all walks of life do, no-one is immune.
Also if people dont contribute, they will pay more anyway. Your limited money argument is in fact an argument in favour of paying them, since it is the cheaper of the 2 options.
Since society is much better off for having welfare, I support it, and pay my contribution with gratitude. Sorry to disagree so much!
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