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Quote by: castille, Why? I can think of a slew of advantages to society owing. Like relief from fear of losing your job, you'll still get fed clothed and housed. Like policing freeing us from all sorts of criminal carry on. Like much lower crime, since the out of work dont have to resort to crime to survive. Like not having to worry about your son or daughter dying when they got fired for some stupid reason. |
Its a luxury, not a necessity.[/quote]
If you want people that fail in the job market to stay alive, stay out of very serious trouble etc, then yes its a necessity.
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Society can't "owe" us anything. If society really owed us something, did society take a vacation during the 3 months when 1 million people in an obscure part of the world the size of Texas get murdered by their neighbours?
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not a logical point.
[/quote]Protection from police, welfare handouts, and other handouts are a luxury, not a priviledge.[/quote]
I dont think stying alive is a luxury myself.
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When people start *expecting* to get free money even if they dont work, they wont work....
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The experience of the Brtish welfare state shows thats not so for about 98% of the adult population. Of the 2% apx that arent working but could physically, some are capable of it and some arent. Many are physically able but no emlpoyer will touch them.
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But is your money really helping them?
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yeah it helps them stay alive, not freeze, and not be subject to the kind of awful abuses penniless people are. And it helps the rest of us not to need to fear that.
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What about those who spend it on beer and drugs?
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foolish, but they still stay alive. Goal still achieved.
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I'd rather my tax money go towards programs to helping them, rather than in the form of pure cash.
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we have that here too. But some are simply beyond help, its that simple. Some people cant get even the basics right, some dont get what the problem is, and for some no employer would want anything to do with employing them.
Your point that some will abuse the system is true for a very small percentage, thats the price tag. Worthwhile I think.
Lava