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Old Nov 5, 2004, 02:46 pm   #14 (permalink) (top)
Technosoul
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Originally posted by Suburbanite,+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='0' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Suburbanite,)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin-Technosoul,
Suburbanite - I hear where you are coming from,  we now have a President who is making national war policy because he got his idea from out of the blue and has claimed it as the authority in his opinion this is how god wants it to be. 

wow, that sure was out of left field[/b][/quote]

Out of left field, out of the blue, whatever.

We can alway expect the unexpected when we deal with visionary types of people such as the role I have assumed in this particular debate, and I can connect those "dots" to include anyone (especially a leader with a vision) as part of my explainations.

Athough this is a bit of a detour from the topic let us look a Bush's visionary concept for the wrold, which he told a reporter during the last persidental debate "that is how god (aka the Blue) would want it.

His vision is that if every person on earth was free and had a democratic governments where they felt they have a voice in what was happening to them or OF them, then that would ease any reason to protest or to become a terrorist. Idealistically he could be absolutly right, those might be the facts. Even if realistically such an agenda or goal would be nearly impossible to put into effect and especailly if done by force through premptive stikes and military agression. None the less, it still might be a fact that if the world was free and everyone had some power to create a world cultue based on the choices of our collective and local abilities to vote, then the "voiceless" ones would not have to get violent to demand those changes that could take place by voting for changes.
Assuming everyone concerned would respect the will of the popular vote,.

But where did President Bush get his facts that his vision is in fact a workable solution in the war on terrorism? Can he pull up a linkpage for Congress so they can check out a world where such a fact is already in effect? Nope. Can he demonstrate why his locgic is realistic or that it makes sense in light of how the world systems now operate? Nope.
Yet, he makes that statement out of left field and presents it as a fact and as a worth while vision for our national policy.

It has been done before, when Kennedy made his vision of sending a man to the moon a national policy and goal. We did it, and science had to come up with the pathway for makeing that dream a reality. And he did not have all the facts that it was possible, only his faith in that vision that came to him from out of the blue ... er, left field.

Now look back at George Washington and the visionary minds who created our Consitution and government. Where did they get their facts that it would work? All the rest of the world had Kings and Queens, dictators or Popes. But they came up with a radical new idea for government and had nothing in the way of another government with a simular concept upon which to base or support their theory with. Where did the writers of the constitution get their ideas if they were not based on known and workable examples from the past realities? Where did they find those "self evident truths" which became the appointed facts for our system of thinking?
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