[Starboy]

Originally posted by Technosoul, My nickname Technosoul is a combination of both. Religion and science should be compatable.

And why should that be? Because [Techno]soul says so? The history of science and religion doesn't suggest that at all.

In a double blind test if people who use the suger pills feel better or believe they are getting worse, then that test should prove that quackery works form the perspective of science.

This speaks volumes about what you think. Until you can comprehend what you imply in this last sentence I will not think that you understand the tradition of science one bit.

Needless to say that our modern explainations for the earth are better then those they had back in the 1800s (perhaps handed down form generations). We can use modern data to explain the meaning of the "myth" story. Back then they did not have our modern data and so had to explain things in a different way that people back then could comprehend.

Again, you do not comprehend science. The people of antiquity had the exact same universe available to them that we have today. The difference was the tradition use to explain it. Until you understand what the tradition of science is all about and study its history and methods I think you should not say anything about it. It is a very new development in the history of mankind and if you have only been paying attention to ancient ideas it would not surprise me one bit that you are completely ignorant about it.

I posted the Turtle information because ACause wanted to research that story, so I made it easy for him. Many of the older myths resulted because of observations made about nature, modern science theory also depends on that same methodology. We have improved upon the art of theory and myth making with our better knowledge, but it is just the evolution of ideas that lead to the new formats for concept construction.

This tells it all. Get a clue soul or just accept that science is beyond you.

The Big Bang theory is in reality a modern myth created by a shaman like activity.

More of the same. Did you ever wonder how over time there are fewer scientific explanations for a given natural phenomenon not more explainations? This is the opposite of supernatural religion. There are over 10,000 variations on the Christian view of the universe alone. Wouldn't a rational person look at this and think that science and religion are not at all the same?

Here are some posts (and I hope you really read them instead of jumping to your opinion without the data). http://www.angelfire.com/realm2/amethystbt...istorymyth.html Here is another with notations from Joesph Campbell. http://www.kenaz.com/notes/shaman.htm http://personalwebs.oakland.edu/~dow/cours...33/stouch7.html http://staff.gc.maricopa.edu/~dturkon/L&M-...nit1-Review.htm On the next weblink they talk about some interesting ideas - somewhat unrelated but concerning mythology and religion. http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Delphi/997.../01anshen1.html Well, enough for now.... check it out - in your own words, be as totally informed as possible befor claiming an opinion as the "only right one". Technosoul

Campbell understood that mythology served many more roles in society than explaining existence. From his point of view that was the least important role of myth. But even so I am not sure that Campbell got science either. Also you do not comprehend that over Campbell's life he changed his mind about the role of myth. His last book did not say the same things as his first. Just the same you are clueless about this as well. There are radically new ideas about who we are. They open up entirely new vistas of possibility but until you learn the traditions of science they will remain beyond you. Science is not mythology. It doesn't exist to tell us stories we like to hear.

Starboy