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Originally posted by bishop,
i want to see the entire mindset that contributed to abu ghraib removed. obviously you see no connection with what happened there with similar cases in afghanistan and gitmo... moreover, it seems that you don't see the similarity with the article that i've repeatedly posted.
what the hell is the point of court martialling a couple nobody privates when our government continues to practice torture behind very questionable legal interpretations? torture is torture is torture... this is a very simple point that you don't seem to understand.
so you want to lower our standards down to those of the terrorists? that speaks volumes.
and let's say that you do want to permit the use of torture wherever our "leaders" deem it appropriate... then FIRST you must legally withdraw from the geneva convention because it IS the law. are you advocating that the u.s. president should disobey the laws of our land??? |
What the hell is the point?...It's supposed to reaffirm that we are not the thugs that Saddam was....let's be clear...while acts of torture may have been committed...it was not condoned as policy..that has never been proved..and most if not all of what I've heard, or seen is abuse, not torture..torture is mutilation..torture is beatings..torture is physical pain, but humiliation and standing on a box torture?...please...
And since we have not been able to make the terrorists raise their standards...we must therefore get down and dirty with them....the point is getting the job done.
The laws of this land are in the Constitution of the United States...the Geneva Accords are not laws that my elected officials ever voted on. pure and simple..there is no legally withdrawing too it...I wonder how come you don't cry that their standards are so low?