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syracusa · Oct 21, 2004, 11:05 am

Teresa Heinz did not say anything untrue, only something politically incorrect. She apologized because she realized this may not be good for the campaign. Other than those few years when, supposedly, Ms. Bush was a "teacher and librarian" (I would love to have more details about her schedule at that time!), she never DID have a real job. She chose to be a stay-at-home and concentrate on her twins. This is great (that's what Teresa said too), but sorry, it is not a real job.

Another questioin would be: what did she do after her twins turned 10-12 yo? As suburbanite was saying earlier (and I agree), there is no reason for a woman not to work after her kids are older and in school. The the stay-at-home mom become just lazy, at best interested in things that DON'T MATTER. Such as how to decorate the house better, etc?

Working an 8-5 job (which most of the times goes beyind 5) IS harder than being a mother and no, being a mother is not "a real job" in this system, no matter how much we insist otherwise.

No matter how much time, attention and energy it takes - you do all that stuff because you CHOSE to do it, because you wanted "mini-me's" and now you want them to turn out better and more succesful than 99% of the other "mini-people".
"Earning a living" does not equate "earning mini-you's."
Again: CAN'T live without earning a living. CAN live without making, having and raising offspring.

As a stay-at-home, you are master of your own domain, you've got power over those little mini-you's, you are not in a position where other adults have power over you, threaten to fire you, or to sanction you if you don't deliver whatever by the deadline, etc.You also do not know what it feels like to bear the pressure that if you get fired, the family won't eat anymore.

Moreover, the mom/housewife "job" is very diverse, it is not monotonous and specialized on one single dumb activity that paralyzes your bones in front of a computer all day; you get to do a lot of things, you can get out of the house whenever you want, you can go shop, run errands, etc, have a sense of freedom. It is a GOOD LIFE.

Yes, kids are hard, they poop, they cry, blah-blah. You knew that before you made them but you STILL wanted "mini-me's". Many times, so you can stay at home. (My friend is such a case).

The man or a working woman (who NEEDS to be working) has no choice. You cannot get to hate your kids but you CAN get to hate your boss, your colleagues, what you do, etc. And still have to put up with it becasue again, YOU and the FAMILY must eat.

Looks like the same people who were being so proud and boastful about having the guts to be politically incorrect, refuse to give them same props to Teresa.

She was right in the first place.

Oct 21, 2004, 11:05 am	#32 (permalink) (top)
syracusa Igneous Magma Posts: 623	Teresa Heinz did not say anything untrue, only something politically incorrect. She apologized because she realized this may not be good for the campaign. Other than those few years when, supposedly, Ms. Bush was a "teacher and librarian" (I would love to have more details about her schedule at that time!), she never DID have a real job. She chose to be a stay-at-home and concentrate on her twins. This is great (that's what Teresa said too), but sorry, it is not a real job. Another questioin would be: what did she do after her twins turned 10-12 yo? As suburbanite was saying earlier (and I agree), there is no reason for a woman not to work after her kids are older and in school. The the stay-at-home mom become just lazy, at best interested in things that DON'T MATTER. Such as how to decorate the house better, etc? Working an 8-5 job (which most of the times goes beyind 5) IS harder than being a mother and no, being a mother is not "a real job" in this system, no matter how much we insist otherwise. No matter how much time, attention and energy it takes - you do all that stuff because you CHOSE to do it, because you wanted "mini-me's" and now you want them to turn out better and more succesful than 99% of the other "mini-people". "Earning a living" does not equate "earning mini-you's." Again: CAN'T live without earning a living. CAN live without making, having and raising offspring. As a stay-at-home, you are master of your own domain, you've got power over those little mini-you's, you are not in a position where other adults have power over you, threaten to fire you, or to sanction you if you don't deliver whatever by the deadline, etc.You also do not know what it feels like to bear the pressure that if you get fired, the family won't eat anymore. Moreover, the mom/housewife "job" is very diverse, it is not monotonous and specialized on one single dumb activity that paralyzes your bones in front of a computer all day; you get to do a lot of things, you can get out of the house whenever you want, you can go shop, run errands, etc, have a sense of freedom. It is a GOOD LIFE. Yes, kids are hard, they poop, they cry, blah-blah. You knew that before you made them but you STILL wanted "mini-me's". Many times, so you can stay at home. (My friend is such a case). The man or a working woman (who NEEDS to be working) has no choice. You cannot get to hate your kids but you CAN get to hate your boss, your colleagues, what you do, etc. And still have to put up with it becasue again, YOU and the FAMILY must eat. Looks like the same people who were being so proud and boastful about having the guts to be politically incorrect, refuse to give them same props to Teresa. She was right in the first place. COMPETITION BRINGS THE BEST IN PRODUCTS AND THE WORST IN RELATIONSHIPS.