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Originally posted by Technosoul,
The point of all my explanations is due to the fact you stated that my observations were too emotional and thusly you effected a rule that the debate must be non-emotional and based only on the standards used by science.
I was pointing out that this is not the case at all, but that real science would in fact concider emotion as part of total picture and not reject it as something unimportant when it comes to understanding the processes of evoution - etc.
You in fact turned around and agreed with me on that point which would contradict your rule that emotional thinking should be avoided as not relating to reality.
Technosoul. |
Firstly I do not think that emotion plays no role in science. On the contrary, emotion is as important to science as it is to any other human endeavor. It is what gets us to go that extra mile; it is part of what motivates us to explore and try to explain anything. And honesty of course is not unique to science either. One would hope that bankers and judges would care about it as well. But I am trying to point out what it means to try to be utterly honest and that it is something that is a core value of science. And there has certainly been a great deal of research on emotion. You ought to explore it sometime. You would find it fascinating.
I am also sure that I agree with you on a large number of things as you do with me. However you have made claims and explanations that I do not comprehend so if you wish to pursue this discussion you will at least have to use terms that we both share. I have no doubt that you have developed a rich tapestry of metaphors for use in your inner conversation about what you are feeling however such descriptions do not in my case work very well since I suspect that you and I have very different backgrounds and the metaphors that I understand and imagine with would also be foreign to you. So we are stuck with the common metaphors of reality that we both share if we hope to communicate with one another. When you talk of a bird soaring in the sky it means one thing to you and to me it just means a bird soaring in the sky. But please do not confuse this statement with a lack of imagination. I am very sure that if I tried to explain the metaphors of my thought to you, it would leave you clueless. That is because I have in my life thought in the metaphors of science and mathematics and have explored and seen things with my own senses that mankind could not ever imagine. To this day scientists struggle with it. I often tell my daughter who is an artist and likes to think that the mind is a richer tapestry of possibility than reality that it is just not so. That nature can present to us things that we could never imagine. And the reason is simple, nature is not encompassed by our minds, our minds are encompassed by nature. Get out there and be a reality adventurer and stop with the mental masturbation.
Starboy