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nature of reality · Dec 21, 2003, 09:31 pm

<blockquote>Quote:<hr size="1" />Originally Posted by
I don't think of myself as an expert on Buddhism, but 3-4 years of studying it, and 2 years of being a buddhist (stopped because I couldn't get buddhism and revolution to be compatible...) did give me some knowledge.

And Buddhism does not reject the will to try, just the attatchment to that trying. Don't hold onto it, or anything, because it is impermanent, and that attatchment leads to suffering.<hr size="1" /></blockquote>

Why don't they just say "don't get bummed if you fail" then? Why is it Don't have the desire to improve yourself? It attacks effort, and their is no way around it.

<blockquote>Quote:<hr size="1" />Originally Posted by
And the golden rule of buddhism is don't follow what other buddhists, including Sidharta Gautema (the first enlightened one to teach), say just because they tell you to, you have to find everything out for yourself. Treat them as advisors, not instructors.<hr size="1" /></blockquote>

whatever. if it didn't have a set core series of beliefs, it wouldn't be a religon. If that shit is completely true, then im a buddhist, i just don't follow the teachings.

<blockquote>Quote:<hr size="1" />Originally Posted by
And Buddhists, like most other religions, recoginise the difference between a monastical following and a normal life. Buddhism suggests that when your ready for the monastical life, whether its this life or another, then go for it, but theres no point till then because it likely won't work. So its not against risk taking, you can take those risks if you want, its no big deal. When your ready to take your buddhism further, do so. <hr size="1" /></blockquote>

It says the way to be happy is to not want (or to not have a wish to increase oneself). It states that as an IDEAL. once again, according to this, im a damn good little buddhist.

<blockquote>Quote:<hr size="1" />Originally Posted by
You deem people who help try and relieve others suffering to be maggots? Selflessness makes you a maggot? Your a fucking heartless parasite who has no place in a society. Why don't you fuck off to the mountains and live by yourself if your so damned anti-social?<hr size="1" /></blockquote>

Living off the scabs and sores of others is the definition of a maggot.

Selflessness makes you something worse; a potential mass-murderer.

What makes the fucking rational decisions? Lets not forget that thought is the most private of property, and their can be no "communal thought". So, what makes the god damn decisions? Thats right, the self. Selflessness= Mindlessness. And we both know damn well actions based in irrationality are at best worthless and at worse destructive.

Also, excatly how am I a parasite? Never have I stolen from anyone; In every transaction has my dealing left everyone the richer, as we both CONSENTUALLY agree to terms. I seriously doubt Mother Theresa pulled a profit; I wonder what benefit the persons who she extorted got from her pain-fetish?

And finally on the "fuck off to the mountains". Im not anti-social. It can be highly beneficial to me, as long as it doesnt try to coerce me. Trade of knowledge and speciliztion of labor both help me. But i won't stand for coercion.

<blockquote>Quote:<hr size="1" />Originally Posted by
You don't know shit about history if you think Christianity led to the dark ages. Rome fell because she had overstretched herself, the legions couldn't control the borders and the Visigoths broke through. A corrupt and infighting government couldn't manage the empire. They couldn't look after their own citizens so they were often in rebellion. It is the fate of all empires, they all fall, as will this current US empire.

The "dark ages" were no different for most people as it was under the Romans, they were still all peasents. <hr size="1" /></blockquote>

have to start calc, be back to respond in maybe 1 hour or so.

Dec 21, 2003, 09:31 pm	#11 (permalink) (top)
nature of reality Molten Ash Posts: 134	</span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by I don't think of myself as an expert on Buddhism, but 3-4 years of studying it, and 2 years of being a buddhist (stopped because I couldn't get buddhism and revolution to be compatible...) did give me some knowledge. And Buddhism does not reject the will to try, just the attatchment to that trying. Don't hold onto it, or anything, because it is impermanent, and that attatchment leads to suffering.<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'> Why don't they just say "don't get bummed if you fail" then? Why is it Don't have the desire to improve yourself? It attacks effort, and their is no way around it. </span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by And the golden rule of buddhism is don't follow what other buddhists, including Sidharta Gautema (the first enlightened one to teach), say just because they tell you to, you have to find everything out for yourself. Treat them as advisors, not instructors.<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'> whatever. if it didn't have a set core series of beliefs, it wouldn't be a religon. If that shit is completely true, then im a buddhist, i just don't follow the teachings. </span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by And Buddhists, like most other religions, recoginise the difference between a monastical following and a normal life. Buddhism suggests that when your ready for the monastical life, whether its this life or another, then go for it, but theres no point till then because it likely won't work. So its not against risk taking, you can take those risks if you want, its no big deal. When your ready to take your buddhism further, do so. <hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'> It says the way to be happy is to not want (or to not have a wish to increase oneself). It states that as an IDEAL. once again, according to this, im a damn good little buddhist. </span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by You deem people who help try and relieve others suffering to be maggots? Selflessness makes you a maggot? Your a fucking heartless parasite who has no place in a society. Why don't you fuck off to the mountains and live by yourself if your so damned anti-social?<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'> Living off the scabs and sores of others is the definition of a maggot. Selflessness makes you something worse; a potential mass-murderer. What makes the fucking rational decisions? Lets not forget that thought is the most private of property, and their can be no "communal thought". So, what makes the god damn decisions? Thats right, the self. Selflessness= Mindlessness. And we both know damn well actions based in irrationality are at best worthless and at worse destructive. Also, excatly how am I a parasite? Never have I stolen from anyone; In every transaction has my dealing left everyone the richer, as we both CONSENTUALLY agree to terms. I seriously doubt Mother Theresa pulled a profit; I wonder what benefit the persons who she extorted got from her pain-fetish? And finally on the "fuck off to the mountains". Im not anti-social. It can be highly beneficial to me, as long as it doesnt try to coerce me. Trade of knowledge and speciliztion of labor both help me. But i won't stand for coercion. </span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by You don't know shit about history if you think Christianity led to the dark ages. Rome fell because she had overstretched herself, the legions couldn't control the borders and the Visigoths broke through. A corrupt and infighting government couldn't manage the empire. They couldn't look after their own citizens so they were often in rebellion. It is the fate of all empires, they all fall, as will this current US empire. The "dark ages" were no different for most people as it was under the Romans, they were still all peasents. <hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'> have to start calc, be back to respond in maybe 1 hour or so. Whats wrong with Liberty?