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Originally posted by macnpat,+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='0' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (macnpat,)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin-Technosoul,
While we await his answer I will inject my opinion.
The answer to the question about the glass being half full or half empty depends upon the action involved.
If you are pouring wather into a glass it would be half full, if you are drinking or pouring water out of a glass it would be half empty. |
hehehe....yer gonna hate me for this, but having found the glass with the water, we know how it got in the glass, regardless of how much is there now. Therefore, we are still stuck with this conundrum.
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The cause of the effect would become then the self-evident factor.
How about that? |
You tell me. What is self-evident in your observation of the glass?
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Want to know about the chicken and egg, or the tree falling in the forest?
I got the answers for those riddles.
Technosoul. |
I'll just bet you do, too. LOL[/b][/quote]
So you found a half glass of water and you know how the water got into the glass, but do you know if it was full and then someone drink half of the water.
Without such knowledge you cannot know if it is half empty or half full, but with that knowledge you can know. That is why we do researches.
What is self evident about the my glass of water answer? If you knew the cause was that someone filled the glass half full that would be a self-evident fact that it was half full but if someone had poured out half the water from a full glass of water that (the cause - aka action) would make it self-evident the glass was half empty. Otherwise the question is deceptive because a half glass of water is both half water and half no-water. both half full and half empty and not "one or the other".
Like the chicken and egg question about what came first, they are both the same thing, not different things. An egg is really a chicken and so is the chicken, eggs in chickens and chickens in eggs. The question has assumed falsely that you are talking about two totally seperate things and not the same thing at stages of growth.
Technosoul.