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Originally Posted by Of course we cannot say that a person is governed by instinct because we, as human beings, are no longer just animals; we have the ability to reason and think for ourselves. When a man murders another, he is held accountable for those actions and rightly so. However, this doesn't mean that this primitive part of him had nothing to do with it. To offer an analogy, this could be seen as dropping a pebble into a lake. The pebble initially only created one ripple, but that one ripple resulted in many others. I believe the same account and consideration should be taken in regatds to social impact, but I believe these both affect an individual equally. I do not think 90% of the responsibility of an individual's actions can be attributed to society - only themselves. Society and primitive nature are only factors.<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'>
True. Our growth is 10% instict and 90% enviromental. But i think murder is different form killing. What i mean is, anyone is capable of killing to survive. But i think only a few are capable of murder. Of course in depends on the motive. But i think you see my point. I did not mean to imply that the 90% was society's responsilility. Only that, that 90% is the enviromental impact upon any one person. Therefore helping to mould who that person becomes. I comes to the individual actions, are choosen. We all decide what we are going to do. According to our 'mould'. But i can not say all my choices where the best ones. I have made mistakes. I have done well.
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Originally Posted by This is true, but I believe it is also a mistake to hold family in the same regard as social drive. Assuring the success of one's family is assuring the success of one's own genes. This is not an obligation to one's social group but an obligation to one's drive of propagation. Keep in mind that lions and many other animals for the same reason will kill the offspring of others in their own species to insure that their own offspring encounter less competition as they mature. Equally, in many extreme circumstances, individuals often put more value upon the lives of their family than they do upon the hundreds or thousands that make up their social group.<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'>
This is one of the examples i found. Pointing at a possible underlinning social drive. But there are others. Perhaps not reaching the same degree as this. But for example. Firemen, have been known to 'risk' they lives to rescue 'strangers'. You could argue, that this is there job. But in some cases, it is too the point. Of even there collegue's. Say that they are a true 'hero'. That it went against protocol. etc. I know this is highly conditional. But this one person is risking their survivial for a complete stranger.
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Originally Posted by I believe this is a matter of sociology rather than genetics/human nature so to speak. As for what I think of it, in our society we both conciously and unconciously judge others by how they have succeeded in life economically. We look at someone who is wealthier than us as having outdone us. This also gives us the impression that they are somehow ABOVE us. I believe that this is changing however. Law enforcement over the years has become bolder in cracking down on Hollywood and other "celebrities", such as Martha Stewart and Michael Jackson.<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'>
Yes, i am encorage by these forms of actons. It shows, rightly. That no one is above the law. But the next thing, in the states. That has to change. Is how the IRS deals with tax. In this situtation, you are guilty. Until you prove yourself otherwise. If your rich, this is not a problem. You can hire a tax lawyer. However if your poor. It is best to come up with the money now. Then hope later on that the truth comes out.
Which leads me to a wander off topic. But have you noticed. When ever you owe any government money. ie- tax. You have to pay 'today'. But when they owe you money. You have to fill out forms in triplicate. Get your great grand father to sign it in blood. Run backwards and fowards pulling your hair out. Then my be 6-10 weeks later. You may see some money from them...