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Old Sep 24, 2004, 12:14 pm   #49 (permalink) (top)
Technosoul
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Good idea, I jumped the gun and started a new message thread about "walking on water" from my perspective, please add your background information, and we can go from there.

I have permission to mock the "lord" because he loves a good joke.
He often took the role of a stand-up comic to poke a little fun at the Temple people, so it is part of the our methodolgy.

I got the frozen water joke from Swiftdeer, a Native American teacher.

Once Swiftdeer, representing the Native Ameircan culture, went over and got some time to speak with the Pope. He suggested to the Pope that he should tell everyone that their famous sacred sites (churches over there, etc) were all built on top of ancient pagan sacred sites, of the Celtic Seers and so forth. And that many of their teachings were adopted from the pagan ideas, such as Easter, Christmas, and they purposely templated the older beliefs with their own belief. He said that the Pope should tell people about that so they can become knowageable of their true roots. The Pope listened to him in a very polite way but did not make any comment on his suggestion.

I rather enjoyed the adventures and stories told by Swiftdeer.

Afterwards Swiftdeer when outside in the garden to smoke his peace pipe and he had a vision, in his vision he saw all the bushes in the garden growing like vines and they completly covered the chruch building, and monkeys were playing in the vines. He concluded that his vision was telling him that someday the the modern Christian religion would be no more and it would be covered over by a nature-based religion such as those that they covered up by building thier belief system on top of. Example: Easter (springtime) was celebrated by the pagans as the rebirth of nature from (symbolically) winter's death. And they would thank the sun for returning it's blessings upon earth to give us another year of newly created plant life and a new generation of animals and birds, etc. That basic idea was altered (in his opinion) as the story of Jesus returning from death to bring us a new springtime of being "reborn" of the spirit.

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