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Old Sep 11, 2004, 06:41 pm   #9 (permalink) (top)
ComradeRed
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Demand $100.00/hr if you want to. The taxpayer will bailout the companies and the government will get into more debt, or the prices will rise on goods.
Should the company be bailed out, there will still be a debt irrelevant to who bailed them out! Should the price rise, there will be a loss in buyers unless other prices rise proportionally.

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Let's break down Marx's little manifesto...
You're looking in the wrong book. Read Das Kapital ALL three volumes, then you get to me on Marx's view of economics.

Your analysis of Marx's demands totally ignores how life was in the 19th Century, perhaps you should remember what things were like way back then.

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With all this communism going on, how can you sit there and attack the ghost of capitalism? You're the one in control. Income tax, public schools, child labor law, central bank, estate tax, etc etc. But this is a capitalist country? My left fucking nut it is!
"With all this communism going on"? I do believe that you forget yourself, sir, you are attacking anything and everything that you perceive to be non-capitalist. The demands Marx made in the Manifesto was to better the conditions of the working class(in America, the American working class is indeed much better, but Marx too knew that these reforms would be costly and ultimately lead to the collapse of capitalism, which is why he demanded them).

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This is less and less about communism and it's really about the liberal agenda: seizing the means of Wealth from the rich.
The liberal agenda is just as bourgeois as that of the right, both seeks to have capitalism(be it in the form of laissez-faire[like what bush is now doing] or in a mixed economy). Neither the right nor the liberals want anything revolutionary, they want things to stay the way it is.

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Because of Karl Marx's call for a central bank, the United States became a Corporatist Union.
Confusing cause and effect fallacy.

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Way to go, ace. We're all slaves now. Happy?
Indeed we are all slaves, wage-slaves to the capitalist system.

The definition of capitalism[just to bear in mind]:
Capitalism: a new and much larger class of mini-despots[capitalists, industrialists, bourgeois, etc] who own the means of production and distribution and exploit the labor of those who don't; the end of private property in people.
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