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Old Apr 5, 2009, 05:43 pm   #59 (permalink)
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a) people are not suitably productive nor adequately rewarded in a collective production system.
On the contrary, in a capitalist systems, where the Nike headquarters are thousands of kilometers from its manufacture in Asia, it's kinda difficult to "adequatly reward" the worker.
Hell, the very definition of capitalism is to pay the worker less than it could be paid.


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b) the government poorly manages the operation of collectives.
A bolshevik, centralized governement trying to rule over 22 millions of square kilometers of tundra, mafia and old heavy industry couldn't help but fail to manage its land. The same problems and the same result apply today with capitalist Russia, minus the relative social security it had under the soviet union.
But hey, again my Nike arguemnt apply: go in the indonesian industries and tell me if it's well managed.


Libertatian socialism is the abolition of the state and capitalism. ''Libertarian'' capitalism is hypocrisy.
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