[gr8fuldaniel]

Originally posted by Dieval, The President can also declare martial law if needed...I'm not seeing that issue..

From Wiki: Martial Law In United States law, martial law is limited by several court decisions handed down during the American Civil War and World War 2. In Ex Parte Milligan 71 US 2 1866, the United States Supreme Court held that martial law could not be instituted within the United States when its civilian courts are in operation.

The day they close the civil courts do they open the prison camps?

The War and Emergency Powers Act is an unconstitutional act on the part of our government, created so that presidents can bypass Congress, and do whatever they choose."[2] "It also makes it possible to do away with posse comitatus in cases of 'emergency'. Posse comitatus is what protects American citizens from the military being used against them."[3]

War Powers Act "Be careful of that pretty little flag with the gold trim that sits on a pedestal in your courtrooms. That is an Admiralty flag (an ensign, a military flag) flown on the open seas, not the American flag ... The US Constitution allowed for three types of laws, Common Law ('We the People'), Contract Law governing contracts and agreements, and Maritime Law that is to be used on the open seas to govern our Naval forces while out there since the ships are not on our land. Only in times of war can Maritime Law govern on land. This is proclaimed by the president. This flag changes your status from Sovereign (God's Law) to subject (the Kings Law)."[13]

Gary North writes: "In 1933, Congressman James M. Beck, speaking from the Congressional Record, states: "I think of all the damnable heresies that have ever been suggested in connection with the Constitution, the doctrine of emergency is the worst. it means that when Congress declares an emergency, there is no Constitution. This means its death. It is the very doctrine that the German chancellor is invoking today in the dying hours of the parliamentary body of the German republic, namely, that because of an emergency, it should grant to the German chancellor absolute power to pass any law, even though the law contradicts the Constitution of the German republic. Chancellor Hitler is at least frank about it. We pay the Constitution lipservice, but the result is the same." North says that what Congressman Beck was saying is "that, of all the damnable heresies that ever existed, this doctrine of emergency has got to be the worst, because once Congress declares an emergency, there is no Constitution."

Beck goes on to say:

"But the Constitution of the United States, as a restraining influence in keeping the federal government within the carefully prescribed channels of power, is moribund, if not dead. We are witnessing its death-agonies, for when this bill becomes a law, if unhappily it becomes a law, there is no longer any workable Constitution to keep the Congress within the limits of its Constitutional powers." North asks "What bill is Congressman Beck talking about?" Beck is referring to the 1933 "Farm Bill", which was passed by the House of Representatives "by a vote of more than three to one." North points out that, "again, we see the doctrine of emergency. Once an emergency is declared, there is no Constitution

So we are talking about a bill passed by Congress, not an Executive Order by the President. Which would negate the sunset on Exec. Order.... No?

... In 1973, in the Emergency Powers Statutes (Senate Report 93-549), the first sentence reads: "Since March the 9th, 1933, the United States has been in a state of declared national emergency." North emphasizes that the "Farm Bill" says "that if a national emergency is declared, there is no Constitution." This is further emphasized by the above Emergency Powers Statutes' statement -- "Since March the 9th of 1933, the United States has been," in fact, "in a state of declared national emergency." The middle language of the Emergency Powers Statutes states: "This vast range of powers, taken together, confer enough authority to rule the country without reference to normal constitutional processes. Under the powers delegated by these statutes, the President may: seize property; organize and control the means of production; seize commodities; assign military forces abroad; institute martial law; seize and control all transportation and communication; regulate the operation of private enterprise; restrict travel; and, in a plethora of particular ways, control the lives of all American citizens." North adds that "this situation has continued uninterrupted since March the 9th of 1933. . . ." --------------------------------------------------------------------------------"A majority of people of the United States have lived all of their lives under emergency rule. For 40 years, freedoms and governmental procedures guaranteed by the Constitution have in varying degrees been abridged by laws brought into force by states of national emergency..." Senate Report 93-549 (Introduction) 1973. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------"The President may: Seize property, organize commodities, assign military forces abroad, institute Martial Law, seize and control and transportation and communication, regulate operation of private enterprise, restrict travel, and in a plethora of particular ways, control the lives of all American citizens". Senate Report 93-549; Senate Resolution 9, 93d Congress, 1st. Session (III) 1973. See: Chapter 1, Title 1, Section 48, Statute 1, March 9, 1933; Proclamation 2038; Title 12 U.S.C 95(b). Also see Executive Orders. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------Currently, the United States remains in a permanent state of national emergency (22 U.S.C.A. 286d. 1977). Executive Order 12919[4] dated June 3, 1994, otherwise known as National Defense Industrial Resources Preparedness[5][6], was signed by President William Jefferson Clinton. On October 29, 2003, President George W. Bush continued the National Emergencies Act (50 U.S.C. 1622(d)) regarding Weapons of mass destruction for 1 year, with the "national emergency declared in Executive Order 12938, as amended."[7] --------------------------------------------------------------------------------"NATIONAL EMERGENCY: (as defined in Black's Law Dictionary) A state of national crisis; a situation demanding immediate and extraordinary national or federal action. Congress has made little or no distinction between a "state of national emergency" and a "state of war". Brown v. Bernstein, D.C.Pa., 49 F.Supp. 728, 732."[8]--------------------------------------------------------------------------------