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Old Oct 23, 2008, 02:06 pm   #108 (permalink)
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You were the one who brought up historical materialism!
Which was defined by Karl Marx
Yes I brought up historical materialism, not marx. The same as if i had brought up democracy doesn't mean that i have to accept the view of plato.


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I said I haven't seen a strong argument for something and now you're trying to tell me my statement is wrong. I seriously have no clue what you are trying to prove here. It is IMPOSSIBLE for you to prove that wrong. First, because for the most part you have no clue what arguments I have seen and secondly because "strong" is subjective, meaning that I am the determinant of whether I think an argument is strong or not.
Seriously Soilent, pick your battles - this is worse than arguing over semantics.
Fine if you wish to remain deliberatly vague in order to keep your claim, so be it.


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Fine, give me a rational reason why women shouldn't be allowed to vote.
Because women accepted their role as second class citizens and it was not until they spoke up and fought against the then current thinking of the role of women , was it changed.
In other words suffrage , like anarchism is a philosophical ideal. Time and acceptance of the philosophical ideal is the common factor.
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Why does a centralized government always lead to revolution? If it works and everyone is content I see no reason for a revolution to occur. Do you think that another form of government might not lead to revolution?
This has already been explained . Sonart and i have been discussing why government and evolution are in direct competition to each other.
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