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Quote by: Soylent Green And differs in what way from constitutions in other countries?

Does it matter? Is there some point here, Soylent, or are you arguing simply to argue. You asked what's a clear and well planned government and I gave you the example of the U.S. Constitution. But the constitutions of every civilized country are plans for their respective governments, because every country has a government, whether or not it's a good one or a bad one.

Or should compare ourselves to... say... Somalia?

Quote by: Soylent Green Wrong I did not claim the government was moving towards decentralisation. I claimed that the possible future path of social evolution leads towards decentralisation of government.

LOLOL!!! Okay, let me see if I have this right...

Government is not moving towards decentralization, we're moving towards decentralization of government.

Okaaaay, got it.

Quote by: Soylent Green towards socialism which is the system of leveling out the class system towards a more even playing field for all.

Okay... or as government regulating the worst excesses and increasing complexities of capitalism for the safety and benefit of everyone. If that smooths out the class system, so much the better.

Quote by: Soylent Green Failure of practical attempts to create possible societies is not indicative of the failure of the theory.

Well, it is so far. The problem with communism is that, in it's idealist desire to be completely fair, it defies too many aspects of human nature. Humans are ambitious and competitive... it's the engine that drives civilization to constantly advance. Communism is targeted to society's lowest common denominator -- the workers -- not the innovators. It looks after the "to each according to their need" part, but not the "to each according to their ability". If there's no reward for striving to do better, then why bother?

Capitalism, on the other hand, is targeted to society's innovators and alphas, but at the expense of the workers, so it's equally flawed.

Quote by: Soylent Green No, the breaking system is personal, in that each of us only assimilate what we need.

Hasn't worked very well so far.

Quote by: Soylent Green That sounds like a plea for the existence of god.

Perhaps, but... alas.

Quote by: Soylent Green Evolution is a natural force not one that was designed to make things better for man.

Actually it is, albeit through random trial and error. I use the word design freely, but not necessarily as a 'conscious' creation. Rather, its a description of how something is put together, and how it functionals. We humans have a design... meaning a complex series of inter-working systems that is consistent in every human. That's not to say that an intelligence was required to achieve that design, only that it exists and works.

And in the case of human beings, it works very, very well, and has indeed made things much better for us. At least so far.

Quote by: Soylent Green 2, I have not seen a strong argument for why one level is 'better' than the previous one What does better imply?

A group of historians were asking each other, if they could chose any period of history to be reborn into, what would it be. The more pragmatic of group responded, "any time after the invention of anesthetic."

That sounds like a definite example of "better" to me.

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