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Quote by: SoylentGreen You did make three points. 1. His claim was that the political institutions of one society had to be overthrown for the next model to come about. An inaccurate rendition

"Society moves from stage to stage when the dominant class is displaced by a new emerging class, by overthrowing the "political shell" that enforces the old relations of production no longer corresponding to the new productive forces."-Source
"Capitalism will never collapse of its own accord. It has to be overthrown." -Source

Marx's book A contribution to the Critique of Political Economy clearly states that to move from one stage to the next requires an overthrowing of the political institutions. I could find 50 more sources in 5 minutes if u want.

2, I have not seen a strong argument for why one level is 'better' than the previous one What does better imply?

I said I haven't seen a strong argument for that - are you now going to prove to me that I already had?

3. especially in the case of anarchism, or whichever model you view as the final model. It's not the final model.

There was a reason I said "or whichever model you view as the final model".

So now you do have a strong argument for why one level is 'better' than the previous one

Where is that argument? I said that evolution makes a society 'better', but I did not say that Marx's levels of society were an evolutionary process.

Such is the advantage of hindsight. But at the time a woman asking for the right to vote was not considered a completely rational idea. Just as now the idea that a society can exist without centralized government is considered irrational. In fact you are using the same type of argument used against woman's right to vote. It has never happened before , no sane person would consider it and therefore not worth considering.

You could have easily said "people used to think the world was flat, and that was completely rational at the time", but it's NOT rational - then or now. It had no evidence to support it, just like there was no valid reasoning for why women shouldn't vote.

Instead of giving me the same strawman argument again, give me a reason why you think that a anarchist society with no central government can thrive, or even exist.