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darwinist · Nov 17, 2003, 10:57 am

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Slave by definition.

A Serf was a slave, etc.

"1. A person who is held in bondage to another; one who is wholly subject to the will of another; one who is held as a chattel; one who has no freedom of action, but whose person and services are wholly under the control of another."
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Under this 'NoT', democracy can be seen a Slavery. You have appent 'freedom' to vote for who you please. You will is subject to another. (Work), unless you see starvation as a viable 'freedom'. You are a slave to the system. Your 'freedom' is to vote for which master runs the Slave farm. So the poor are always to supporting the system. The rich can buy there freedom. Buy the farm, bribe the master and live on the estate.

Geoff. I think all people are Rational, till they become ir-Rational. A man Rational man is ir-Rational with a big dose of passion/emotions or a Woman. ;)

Anyway, i going to try to steer this debate back to topic. Property Rights.

I do not think that P.R is the problem. I think it is how they are controled. As you take away freedoms, you increase corrutption. Example. When you buy a car, you are free to do with it as you please. Put in a new engine, polish it, lend it to a friend, give it away. etc. With Cd's, music and software. You do not own those same rights as mentioned with the car. So the companies who control thes 'rights' become more powerful. More power means more money. Money leads to corruption. Perhaps a little over simple. But i think you see my point. Now look at DvD's and how there controlled.

Soloution.
( I hope)

In every system there should be checks a balances. At this moment this is not true. Take the capitalist system. Put an upper limit on earnings. I mean how many mansions and sports cars do one person really need. Bill Gates has a 50 million dollar mansion. plus a few other famous people have millions of dollars. They just do not know what to do with it. Now i not saying that they haven' t earned it. Before anyone starts.

So i purpose, to make a max limit of how much a person can earn. Lets say $ 1 million dollars per year. Anything else goes back into the system to 'help others'. It is only an idea. :)

Nov 17, 2003, 10:57 am	#92 (permalink) (top)
darwinist Igneous Magma Location: Netherlands Posts: 200	</span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by Slave by definition. A Serf was a slave, etc. "1. A person who is held in bondage to another; one who is wholly subject to the will of another; one who is held as a chattel; one who has no freedom of action, but whose person and services are wholly under the control of another." <hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'> Under this 'NoT', democracy can be seen a Slavery. You have appent 'freedom' to vote for who you please. You will is subject to another. (Work), unless you see starvation as a viable 'freedom'. You are a slave to the system. Your 'freedom' is to vote for which master runs the Slave farm. So the poor are always to supporting the system. The rich can buy there freedom. Buy the farm, bribe the master and live on the estate. Geoff. I think all people are Rational, till they become ir-Rational. A man Rational man is ir-Rational with a big dose of passion/emotions or a Woman. ;) Anyway, i going to try to steer this debate back to topic. Property Rights. I do not think that P.R is the problem. I think it is how they are controled. As you take away freedoms, you increase corrutption. Example. When you buy a car, you are free to do with it as you please. Put in a new engine, polish it, lend it to a friend, give it away. etc. With Cd's, music and software. You do not own those same rights as mentioned with the car. So the companies who control thes 'rights' become more powerful. More power means more money. Money leads to corruption. Perhaps a little over simple. But i think you see my point. Now look at DvD's and how there controlled. Soloution. ( I hope) In every system there should be checks a balances. At this moment this is not true. Take the capitalist system. Put an upper limit on earnings. I mean how many mansions and sports cars do one person really need. Bill Gates has a 50 million dollar mansion. plus a few other famous people have millions of dollars. They just do not know what to do with it. Now i not saying that they haven' t earned it. Before anyone starts. So i purpose, to make a max limit of how much a person can earn. Lets say $ 1 million dollars per year. Anything else goes back into the system to 'help others'. It is only an idea. :) What goes 'up', must come 'down', unless it goes around and round.