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Old Aug 20, 2008, 06:44 pm   #8 (permalink)
oracle13
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Reality exists outside of anyone's consciousness.
This premise can be contested.

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"Logic" is a set of rules that are used to apply and test ideas in the real world (reality).
A set of rules constructed by minds that may or may not comprehend reality as it 'is' whatever that means.

I am in full agreement with your conclusion I just want to try and tighten up what you are saying.

I think I am in full agreement with what you are saying but I'm not sure actually.

The world may be reality, but I don't care about the world, I only care about it as a tool to fulfill the desires that are placed within my mind. Reality, ie: everything 'outside' my consciousness that my consciousness perceives may be understood through reason.

Take, for example, a person with a phobia of pickles (this person actually exists). If you talk to her about why she is afraid of pickles, she can carefully explain that she has no reason to be afraid. But as soon as she is shown a pickle she can't stop her reactions.

Clearly this is an example of an action not based on reason. Is she stupid? No, clearly she has a recognisable problem. What's to say many 'unreasonable' people don't have problems like these, problems that are not medically documented because they are not frequent issues.
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