| To those that say that this thread is already covered- it's not really. those other threads argue over the validity of evidence over belief. This thread argues that almost any debates about religion are pointless because staunch theists and atheists are unwilling to accept each others core values EVEN FOR THE SAKE OF DEBATE. Already this thread has turned into pretty much the same as other debates in that the original focus of the thread has become distorted by th strong views of those who believe in God and those who don't. Those who believe in a god retort eventually with the same arguments as every other religious debate so far and the atheists act vice versa. Both sides already know what the other argument is but still continue to dominate threads with the same predictable arguments.
The other day i asked those who have had religious experiences if they could explain them. Nearly all the posts were " don't expect much its all a load of crap". But the thread was not about whether you believed in it, in fact those who have no faith in god didn't have any input into the thread apart from attracting those with no experience to the topic to defend their faith and the thread became dominated and pointless.
I think the problem is that bot sides feel they can win and convert the others when it is clear from the hundreds of threads that that doesn't happen.
How do we solve tis or can we? Thats the the thread in a nut shell. |