[Dan_77]

Quote by: sdbest A quibble. America was on the winning side in WWII, but I would argue that the it was the USSR that defeated Germany. The other Allies played a positive role. The U.S.'s major achievement was that it could provide supplies because its factories could not be threatened by German forces. The U.S. military was not the major winning factor in WWII; the Soviet military was.

Yeah, that Soviet military sure did a lot of island hopping in the Pacific and man, when they dropped those A-bombs on Japan, that really sealed it... Wait, what?

Quote by: Thanatos 1. Big military-obsessed superpowers who by rights should have totally mopped the floor with the Afghanis. Only teenagers and fools have a license to feel invulnerable. Losing is not outside the realm of possibility.

Of course not. But to presume that merely because the USSR could not successfully invade Afghanistan and hold it, etc etc, 25 years ago, does not mean that the US, already successful in the invasion part, cannot work with the Afghani government to remove terrorist elements from the country? It's apples and oranges.

Sdbest brought it up because of his open anti-American bias.

2. We haven't won a major war since 1945. Korea was a draw, Vietnam a loss, all the others too small and brief to count.

Persian Gulf I? Oh, I get it... Because that one was fast and efficient, it doesn't count??? Iraq did have the 4th or 5th largest military in the world at the time.

Korea and Vietnam were militarily very successful, but were hampered politically. I admit our politicians were idiots in the way they handled both of those... which frankly scares me about the current situation... but still, for sdbest to say, without any reasonable justification that the US loses "most" of its wars is simply nonsense.