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Quote by: xyzer Yep Dandelo! Logic and history tell us so but we encounter this rigid, flat earth', type thinking and so the myths persist. |
Again, you are describing yourself very aptly there.
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There is nothing new in climate science since that warm year 1998?
Why, because Pooey tells us so? And Pooey is the only one that can correctly interpret climate change? |
Please do not misquote me.
That is not what I meant, I've explained to you before. You know what I was referring to;
El Nino which caused the 1998 record,
El Nino is a phenomenon that scientists have charted for the past 50 years, ergo, it is not something new to climate science. Please stop twist my words just because you have no actual substance for debate.
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Quote by: xyzer If we question his interpretations we "dont understand" or are misleading in our analysis of facts,  |
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Quote by: xyzer He ignores recent satellite measurements,(It's grown cooler in the last decade)and |
No, I haven't, I have addressed them with when ever it has been brought up. Put simply, we know that we're going through a period of
La Nina for the past few years which has temporarily overwhelmed the warming. This has been spelt out to you over and over, do I have to recite my sources or are you going to stop beating this dead horse?
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Quote by: xyzer then has the audacity to rationalize it by saying 1998 was very warm....so I guess it had to cool, right Pooey? |
You have the audacity to ignore that 1998 was a record anomalous year due to strong
El Nino effect, even when this has been said to you time and time again.
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Quote by: xyzer This even though humans are spewing more CO2 into the atmosphere? |
It's been stated before, other factors can overcome the CO2 forcing, such as huge amounts of sulphates in the atmosphere. No one has ever suggested that we have a linear relationship between CO2 and temperature, except perhaps yourself.
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Quote by: xyzer He ignores Dr Tappings observations of sun spot activity,....and rigidly clings to the Gore like nonsense and |
I'd like to point again that I've already cited many a times that the majority of studies so far (including earlier this year) has found no correlation between solar activity and increased warming of the past 20 years.
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Quote by: xyzer antiquated models(pre 2000) of the UN Climate Panel. |
Again, I will point out that the IPCC has used post-2000 material in their 2007 assessment report. I have told you this before, therefore, you are
lying.
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Quote by: xyzer Models which did not includes natural factors(because they can't be forecast)like the suns wavering intensity, El Nino, La Nina, the effect of cosmic particles on atmospheric moisture and a host of other NATURAL influences on global climate! |
I'm not going to go through all of those but since when can we reliably forecast the PDO cycles with great precision? You will tell the rest of the world what the formula for that is, won't you?
Once more, we see how you're ignoring what I've said and simply ploughing into your next flawed and misleading point, as documented above.