[xyzer]

Pooey, how dare you post this? You who keep talking about peer review and scientific data?

We've already explained the apparent dip but now it seems the measurements are flawed. Yes, I cite a scientific paper from the most well known journal in the world, what do you have?

This is not a scientific paper, nor is its source the most well known journal in the world!!!!! It is the contention of several scientists who analized some global temperature data in 1945(before we had satellite accuracy)? You have the temerity to posit this as a scientific paper? I have emphasized the word 'argue'! Arguments are not scientific certainty except in the eyes of fools?

We argue that the abrupt temperature drop of 0.3 °C in 1945 is the apparent result of uncorrected instrumental biases in the sea surface temperature record. Corrections for the discontinuity are expected to alter the character of mid-twentieth century temperature variability but not estimates of the century-long trend in global-mean temperatures.

We have been discussing accuracy and complete data from scientific studies and now you criticize deadeye for quoting from non scientifically reviewed papers and then turn right around an do the same thing? And even embellish your response to deadeye with this?

4C above average? Is that globally? Where is your source for this claim?

You who keep referring to studies based on contrived(proxy) data for past temperatures and climates now buy blindly into some assumptions of a flawed reading of ocean temps(where, nobody knows)some 60 years ago. You who complain about people questioning the accuracy of the proxy data and assumption made by the IPCC. Do I hear the cornflakes crunching ? Is this discussion turning into a childlike "my references are better than your references?" Why? Because I say so.

Then there is this pearl of logic?

None of what you say is sufficient to absolve human influence. You've merely pointed out climatic changes that we're all aware of has happened

How did humans influence the 'Little Ice Age"? How did humans influence the cold decades of the mid 1900s? How did humans influence of the drouth years in the mid 20 and 30s? Surely you jest?