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Old May 20, 2008, 08:40 am   #81 (permalink) (top)
Chris the Chees
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excuse me. it does matter what i believe as otherwise i wouldn't be here debating with you and neither would you likewise. our beliefs on such issues are what form a view-point... therefore, what you've just said is complete tosh.

the most horrific crimes (such as murder) are the ones which the death penalty should be applied as the criminal deserves the worst possible punishment. a punishment lesser than the worst possible clearly undermines the value which society places on the protection of lives. rehabilitating murderer's is just completely barbaric.
The person has pointed out, and correctly so, that while you may have your beliefs, the death penalty is and will remain a cost ineffective, inefficient act of state murder. You can say that 'x' crime warrents the death penalty, but you have no evidence to suggest that at all. All you have is your entirely subjective opinion that the state should be based on the spirit of revenge; and where is the logic in that. And how is rehabilitating murderers "barbaric"?

Thankfully sinse Derek Bentley you are in the minority in this country.


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