[gallo]

Quote by: loser It makes you wonder why (since it's beyond the realm of science) scientists spend so much time trying to refute/discredit/lambast those who DO believe.

Because so many idiot creationists try to claim that their religion is scientific and try to jam it down children's throats in our public schools as science. When idiocy is postulated as science, then it is legitimate for scientists to show it as idiocy. If superstitious religionists would practice their hocus pokus without trying to gain the approval of science by inventing "scientific evidence" and without trying to force their magic rituals and monuments on everyone, then you would have nothing to complain about.

Unknown and unexplained science has always seemed to be 'magic' to the ill-informed but should 'scientists' be this superstitious? There's nothing magical about the supernatural; the supernatural is SUPER natural...it's science (though it's science beyond the ability of most men).

So you couldn't answer the question and just made up this pucky about how science is superstitious. There is no evidence that anything supernatural exists. It is invented to make ignorant people feel better. Of course, to those who are ignorant of science (like creationists), science might seem magical. However, most scientists that I have ever known were quite familiar with religion, as is true in my case. I am not ignorant of the superstition of religion. In fact, some of my minor degrees were earned in the formal study of Christian theology.

I'm quite alarmed at the extent of confusion displayed by modern scientists who really don't have a grasp of science at all. It's scary.

How would you know? Not only do you display ignorance of science, it seems that you maintain that ignorance intentionally.

gallo, you really need to educate yourself on what magic is and on what religion is. Though the two can often be confused (just like science and magic), they are not the same.

Then would you prefer that I call religion mere superstition? Your religion has no basis in reality. As I mentioned, because of my formal education in religion, I am quite clear on what it is. That is also true of science.

Your strong personal feelings about religion have clouded any objectivity that you may have ever had.

Nah. I just know more about it than you do.

Your constant denigration of religion/God/the supernatural along with your consequential false characterization of it as "magic" leaves one little choice but to dismiss your arguments as subjectively biased and unbefitting of serious consideration.

Then you have no serious answer? I didn't think so. I've asked you for evidence to support your claims of miracles and you can't offer any. You have only your belief in an old book of mythology.

In short, your tirades on "magic" have become quite tedious, at best.

As have your tirades about the truth of a book of mythology.

Qualify that 'rabbit-out-of-a-hat' statement. How does the existence of God contradict PROVEN scientific FACTS?

Yet another example of how christians in general and you in particular are liars. I never made that remark or anything similar. And yet, you include it in a response to my posts. Your dishonesty is below contempt.