| I still think that changing direction is relative to free will and a flower does not have that advantage.
I already got a MODERATOR WARNING notice for using the f.. word and so I cannot repsond to your 2nd line in your statement. I do not want to risk another warning notice.
A metaphysical dimension is what they were talking about as a religious fantasy, which they claim has evolved out of a primitive abilty to know the difference between things with agents and things with no agents.
Your last remark is based on an "out of context" line in my remarks. I said they are trying to discribe the same idea. If a snake can look like a limb of a tree then that disception would fool an animal or bird, as they would see the snake as just part of the tree, not as a dangerous snake. It would look like a tree agent and not as an animal agent which can move by free will to bite you when you reach for that apple.
Aha. So being dishonest is a Darwinian Advantage for survival, and being truthful about your self is not a Darwinian Advantage. So to survive we must evolve better ways of deception according to the tree snake.
Eve and Adam failed to learn that good enough when they tried to look like a fig leaf because God saw them trying to hide in the bush like the snake hid in the tree and so they did not dodge the threat from their number one preditor.
Therefore based on my biblical interpretation the real meaning of the living agent of the word is well hid and it looks like the tree of knowledge, but that secret agent which is the true meaning is the limb of life and eternal survival, to be as wise as the serpent.
By evolutionary progress to become like the gods we would blend into that metaphysical reality and become the agents of total domination over the physical world, which now represents a threat to us on many fronts.
No longer fearing the gods of wrath or the dangers of the natual world. Assuming the cloke of fantasy as a an illusion of being something else, the free spirit that moves like the wind in unseen ways. the king with invisable clothing. If you can see me you can attack me, or run away form me, but if I am an illusionary deception then you cannot capture me or escape from me. Can you see my soul spirit or just the rock that I stand upon?
The interview was an attempt to explain why people believe in some religious concept that they think is a fantasy, but you see, in the real world deceptions do not exsist because a scientist would spot the snake in the tree and not be fooled, because they have become like the gods who know the difference between snakes and tree limbs (most of the time). Therefore the deception that God is some sort of supernatural threat or provider ( living by every word that comes form the mouth of God) is, in their opinon, the purpose or the final product of evolution because they are no longer fooled by such supersition pretending to be the truth.
But the problem with that is this, animals and plants never encounted that biblical novelty as part of the real world. Only humans have encountered that novelty.
And so it is acturally the scientists (philosophers) who are reacting to that novelty (aka religion) and not animal or plant agents. So we cannot link that situation which involves only human beings with anything happening as part of the evolution of other animals, nor plants for that matter. Unless you can prove that animals and plants have a simular superstition to evolve out of or if it is possible for them to evolve into an idea about something concidered to be metaphysical to improve their rate of survival. |