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Old May 17, 2008, 06:53 am   #1363 (permalink) (top)
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I'm referring to the recent figues showing global cooling over the past few years.
Are we talking about natural fluctuations or an actual cooling trend?
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Have you seen a study that includes this data?
No, I am not a researcher so I can't give you answer straight away.
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We are told that the cooling is related to El nino a recurrent influence on some land areas climate?
It's actually La Nina, and it's been noted for quite a while.
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Rumor has it that the cooling trend may continue for 15 or 29 years?
This is a scientific debate, I don't deal with rumours.
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Was that cranked into the predictive models used by the IPCC? Was sunspot data added to those predictive models of the late 199'0s and is it still the same?
Haven't we already covered the sunspot influence hypothesis? Do I really have to repost links about the lack of correlation between sunspot activity and the recent warming for the past few decades? Do I really?
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Instead, what we read and hear is mostly based on the insistence that global climate is overwhelmingly influenced by anthropogenic CO2.
No, that's not what has been claimed. You are making things up, CO2 accounts for 9 to 26% of atmospheric thermal retention, this is far from overwhelming, is it? However, it does make it a significant player. Now please stop lying and making things up.
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Thats the dogma, since CO2 is increasing the climate has to get warmer? If there is any variatiojn to warming it is rationalized as variablity of weather?Climate? But ultimately the earth is going to resemble Venus unless we stop using carbon energy?
Enough already?
Please stop using misleading conjectures. CO2 is a significant driver in thermal retention but we've never said that its effects are greater than any other factors out there. Are you having trouble because the scientists can actually justify the changes in temperature? So, either way, if they don't have an explanation; you're right, if they do have an explanation, you're also right because...well, it seems you're a climate god!
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Here is a recent article that points out the problem?
Is the earth getting warmer, or cooler? | The Register

from the article...

Also..
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Global temperature for 2008 is expected to be 0.37 °C above the long-term (1961-1990) average of 14.0 °C, the coolest year since 2000, when the value was 0.24 °C.
As we've mentioned above, this is attributed to natural phenomenons such as La Nina.


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