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Old May 16, 2008, 10:22 am   #1362 (permalink)
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Also, what measurement trends are you referring
I'm referring to the recent figues showing global cooling over the past few years. Have you seen a study that includes this data? We are told that the cooling is related to El nino a recurrent influence on some land areas climate? Rumor has it that the cooling trend may continue for 15 or 29 years?
Was that cranked into the predictive models used by the IPCC? Was sunspot data added to those predictive models of the late 199'0s and is it still the same?
Instead, what we read and hear is mostly based on the insistence that global climate is overwhelmingly influenced by anthropogenic CO2. Thats the dogma, since CO2 is increasing the climate has to get warmer? If there is any variatiojn to warming it is rationalized as variablity of weather?Climate? But ultimately the earth is going to resemble Venus unless we stop using carbon energy?
Enough already?

Here is a recent article that points out the problem?
Is the earth getting warmer, or cooler? | The Register


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Both of the satellite data sources, as well as Had-Crut, show worldwide temperatures falling below the IPCC estimates. Satellite data shows temperatures near or below the 30 year average - but NASA data has somehow managed to stay on track towards climate Armageddon. You can draw your own conclusions, but I see a pattern that is troublesome. In science, as with any other endeavour, it is always a good idea to have some separation between the people generating the data and the people interpreting it.
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Confusing? How can scientists who report measurements of the earth's temperature within one one-hundredth of a degree be unable to concur if the temperature is going up or down over a ten year period? Something appears to be inconsistent with the NASA data - but what is it?

One clue we can see is that NASA has been reworking recent temperatures upwards and older temperatures downwards - which creates a greater slope and the appearance of warming. Canadian statistician Steve McIntyre has been tracking the changes closely on his Climate Audit site, and reports that NASA is Rewriting History, Time and Time Again. The recent changes can be seen by comparing the NASA 1999 and 2007 US temperature graphs. Below is the 1999 version, and below that is the reworked 2007 version.


Thus we play the fools with the time, and the spirits of the wise sit in the clouds and mock us.

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