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Quote by: Milton Bradley Sure it is, because whatever number of deaths you cite, I'm sure the number of deaths associated with automobiles exceeds that number over time, yet that doesn't change you view of automibiles. You still see those as a useful tool, likely because you use one regularly.

This is a point that has been adressed before. We license drivers, we regulate cars to a much greater degree than we do guns, despite the fact that human death is an unfortunate side effect of automobile use and the freakin designed purpose of a gun. Add the fact that, as has been stated and established, per use death rates are considerably lower for automobiles and the economic necessity is far greater. You trot this out all the time, but it is not an effective point on almost every conceivable level.

Quote by: Milton Bradley Yet, in truth, it would be far easier to procure, and use an aotumobile to kill somebody maliciously were the only intent to kill. So again, you're logic falls apart.

Right. That is why wars are fought with Jeeps and Hummers causing the greatest number of combat deaths, 'cause cars are more efficient death dealers than guns.

Quote by: Milton Bradley I didn't, I said one would need to be to "garuntee" anybodies safety. You are just trying to sell the illusion of safety, though you yourself admit you are not intent on banning the guns most often used in the commision of crimes.

Quote me the statistics that say most gun death crimes are committed with hunting rifles.

Quote by: Milton Bradley Right, you don't care to remove the tools people use to commit crimes, you just want us to appease your irrational fears. Like I said, you want a society of saccrificial animals.

See above.

Quote by: Milton Bradley That's essentially what was garunteed by the choice of the word "arms".

Alright, Mr. "Original Intent, I've read all the words of the founders and am intimately familiar with the reasoning of the time", now you are claiming the founders had any idea that we would have the type of weaponry we have today and meant for everyone to have access to assault rifles? Who is living in fantasy land now?

Quote by: Milton Bradley How would an "armed Militia" arm itself ( which was the understanding ) if the manufacture, sales, and possesion of "arms" is illegal?

See above.

Quote by: Milton Bradley You're in denial here, plain, and simple.

You are willing to twist truth and logic until they are their own opposite numbers, plain and simple.