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Old May 15, 2008, 01:59 pm   #67 (permalink) (top)
Rainbow
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No, we can't prove that.
But at the same time, its meaningless to say that 'matter can't creat itself, therefore it must have been created by a creator'

Because under that logic, the creator must have been created by a creator.
If your open to the idea of something that has always existed, and always will exist, then its meaningless to say it can't be matter, but it can be a 'creator'.

I wasn't trying to prove that there is no creator, I was disproving that there is a creator, under the reasoning presented.
I think we come back to the same point, which goes as follow :
- are you questioning (mem)Branes Theory ?
If "yes", present your arguments, please.

Neither side has arguments to support their view - using scientific means, today, so far.
The core factor is :
- an atom possesses No ability and/or characteristics of self-creation
This is a fact, according to the Science. That is the key element that makes the whole case stronger for Theists.

In contrary, Atheists await for new developments and/or discovery that would deliver a completely new data on an atom's structure and/or characteristics and/or attributes, etc.
That is why Atheists reject Creator existence. And that points to Psychology and/or Sociology related issues, instead and indeed.

And the winner is ?
(Obama) :-)

Last edited by Rainbow; May 15, 2008 at 02:33 pm.
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