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Old May 13, 2008, 11:03 am   #94 (permalink) (top)
RealRockingham
 
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1)Then I submit that my worldview is superior to yours because, to you, the word "impossible" is interchangeable with "possible"... which is dumb. We have these words for a reason nor are we particularly stumped by what should go into which category.



Give us this day, our daily straw man.

2)I am not saying "the mormon god is energy". I challenge you to find where I stated or even implied such nonsense. There is no god. What I did claim is that for Jesus to teleport from the mid east to America, it would take a tremendous amount of energy. As in more energy than is found on the Earth. So, claiming, "Jesus teleported to America" is exactly the same as claiming "There's more energy on the Earth than on the sun"... which is false.

Not possible. Not unknown.

False.



3)Oh, GTFO with that crap. Calling a false thing false is honest. If that's how you define arrogant than I humbly recommend you cease and desist your abuse of the English language.



4)Because I have an education.



5)Nope. You're wrong.

You see, I'm using logic. Logic isn't a matter of opinion. It's fact. Calling it opinion in absolutely no way dispels it. You need to offer a counter-argument... one that doesn't boil down to, "It's arrogant to say 'one plus one doesn't equal three'. That's just your opinion. That's just your belief. We can't know for sure..."



6)Once again, I submit that my worldview is superior to yours. You clearly have no grasp of what's possible versus what's not possible.
1)No. I recognise its scientifically and "logically" impossible. What I DONT recognise is that science and logic are undebatably correct. In which case, if they are incorrect(though I BELIEVE, but don't KNOW that they are correct), then it being impossible in their terms becomes irrelevant.

So, please specify when you say something is impossible, impossible according to WHAT world view? Your own? You MAY be wrong, and if you can't accept that you are narrow minded and set in your ways.

2) You misinterpreted me. I was saying that, if the Mormon God was real, their WOULDN'T need to be more energy on the Earth then the sun to transport them. The Mormon God, according to faith, is not constrained by science. God DEFINES reality according to faith. You seem incapable of comprehending an even slight possibilty that science might be incorrect. I, myself, beleive largely what you beleive in regards to the universe. But I'm not so arrogant as to not accept the possibility that my perspective is wrong.

3)Prove its false. You cant KNOW it is, only have the OPINION that it is. Granted, you can't technically KNOW anything other then that you are self-aware on some level...though you can be pretty damn sure of some things. Think Matrix. Then PROVE its not so. I'm not saying I believe it is like that, only that I CAN'T PROVE that it isn't. Recognize that nothing is certain, then you will appear far less obnoxious, and be able to understand the religious POV.

4)An education that tells you to be certain of some things that may be wrong outof neccesity of employment and the limitations of time. Education isn't intended to teach you the truth about things, its intended to teach you what you need to think and how to act to get employed, even if its not teaching you whats strictly true.

5) Your using YOUR logic. It makes logical sense to others. Logic is to quite some extent a product of the individual. Logic and science aren't synonomous.

6) I have a grasp of what is scientifically possible, and in everyday life subscribe to it. But we are talking theoretically, are we not?

And I see the word "superior". Please define the word before you use it.

6)


Certainty is for fools
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