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</span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (fedfem,)
Iraq was secular.  Why do you think Osama hated him so much?  The Nazis were not secular.  The US is secular but our current administration is not.

Why do you think we should go to war with the Arabs?  The US would not dare go to war with N Korea.  The US only attacks small countries that have been disarmed. 

Can you list any war we engaged in where the country was not already war torn or at the end of its power? 

Some Republicans are yelling too--don't kid yourself.  They know the party has been taken by this neo-con ideal.

regarding your last statement:

"why are we fighting? greed, insecurity, revenge...

it is what humans do..."

Don't you think we should evolve from that?

We are now in a "cool war" with Europe and Latin America whether it is in the media or not.  The Euro is the biggest weapon that will be used against the US in the coming years.  Latin America and Europe will no longer be the allies of the past 50 years.  Russia and China are building alliances while we are "busy". It is sad and only democratic ideals can save us now.  We(US) are leaving ourselves vulnerable by our focus on the middle east.  The Distraction afforded by the "war on terror" will all come to light someday.  This is WW3 or 4(depending who you ask) and we(US) started it. 

I suggest you start reading some other sources besides Faux and Freeper news.  Not all is how it is presented to you.

It is in your self-interest to do so.<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'>

the iraqis under saddam were just as secular as the germans under hitler

-The US is secular but our current administration is not.
no, the us is not secular... some left wingers would like you to believe the lie that the us is secular, but it never has been... read the federalist papers

-Why do you think we should go to war with the Arabs? The US would not dare go to war with N Korea.
I never said we should, I said we will... why? that's what humans do... as far as n korea, the us and china will go to war and n korea will surrender

-The US only attacks small countries that have been disarmed.
how soon we forget 1941

-Can you list any war we engaged in where the country was not already war torn or at the end of its power?
nor can you, thus amplifying the point about the warlike nature of humans

-Some Republicans are yelling too--don't kid yourself. They know the party has been taken by this neo-con ideal.
and some democrats are more gung ho than bush-- don't kid yourself

-Don't you think we should evolve from that?

not really, besides, in the millenia it takes for actual evolution to occur, the race of humans will have been long gone... forced evolution?

-Latin America and Europe will no longer be the allies of the past 50 years.

and we will stop feeding them... the trade game goes both way and we have far more resources than the rest of the planet

-It is sad and only democratic ideals can save us now.
which democratic ideals are those? communalism? sorry, it isn't going to happen... the strong will rule as they always have... the new god of democracy will die as the christian god did

- We(US) are leaving ourselves vulnerable by our focus on the middle east. The Distraction afforded by the "war on terror" will all come to light someday.
vulnerable to whom? what distraction?

-I suggest you start reading some other sources besides Faux and Freeper news. Not all is how it is presented to you.

I am well aware of the propaganda being spun on msnbc and cnn... I have better judgement on who is telling me the truth... your spelling of fox reveals your prejudice and bias...