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Quote by: Hurt  Negative aspects of atheism/agnosticism? Elaborate, please. |
Well, they don't belong to one bloc, so you can't evaluate them as a whole(for example, vegeterianism, humanism, communism, nieztchesm are all very different)
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Quote by: rez 1)Joseph Smith and all the people that bought into it.
2)Mormonism did not have an positive effect on the world. People and their own personal desires and convictions had a positive effect on the world.
3)Sorry sir, but people make claims and don't back them up with reasons I am going to laugh at them.
4)Strawman. Please read the thread over again. Zharvic does not care how quick someone replies.
5)Kakumei's post was right after Zharvic posted all those questions. Kakumei, wanted to debate about his religion and he totally avoided it. Nobody made him have to respond to every single one of those posts right away. 3 years ago Kakumei would of been booted from this website because of his lack of debate. |
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Quote by: Hurt 6)Well, if he wants to say that the mormon religion instills better values than atheism and agnosticism, I'd like to know where he's coming from. |
1)OK, I'll rephrase that- "why does it
matter if the religion is factually accurate"? The truth ain't always great.
2)Well, by that logic, neither did Christianity, or atheism/agnosticism for that matter.
But I think one cannot totally ignore the beliefs of someone when considering the contributions and actions of its adherents. Not all Mormons would spend a huge time on missionary activity, improving the lifes of others, if they weren't Mormons. Just like many Christians would have no issue with polygamy, or Muslims with alcohol, if they didn't adhere to a faith that forbid it.
3)What has Kakumei not backed up?
4)Yes he does care, hes complaining about the fact that Kakumei has not replied now.... his quote in your post proves it.
5)He responded to SOME of them, and may respond to the rest of them. Their were a lot of questions, and Zhavrics post is not the only one on the thread
6)Their a numerous forms of atheism and agnosticism. All with their own strengths and weaknesses, much like Mormonism.
And I never said Mormonism instilled better morals, merely that it had good aspects. I would not be so arrogant, myself, to try to fit reasonable belief systems and faiths onto a scale in terms of "better" and "worse"( Mayan sacrificial faith, Scientology, and the like don't fit in my term of reasonable though, so don't criticise me by applying that standard to them)