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Old May 11, 2008, 06:07 am   #44 (permalink) (top)
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No, he was ousted which means forced to resign. Clearly the Chinese government didn't feel his merits or ability were more important than the scandal.
Ok. After showing this article to my government teacher and my parents, they all agree that this was unusual and that more must have been happening under the surface.

The only way this could have happened is if he was embezzling government funds to pay for the extra marital affair. Since there were only rumors around this, and no actual proof of anything, this isn't an example I can do too much about.

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Why? People actually knew who Elliot Spitzer was, and yet notoriety has nothing to do with your claim about America being the only country that is more concerned with scandal than job performance. I just pointed out an instance of your own government orchestrating the same thing.
This is about public opinion, not government action. This was a comparison to how much people in America care about the Obama/Wright issue.

And this isn't a competition of which country is better then which (I'm a US citizen) rather it's a discussion of a notable trait in American political culture.

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Yeah that couldn't have anything to do with a tight lipped government not releasing any more information on an embarrassment like a sex scandal. Or the fact that he wasn't widely known before the scandal.
People pick up outside papers. Internet exists and the Chinese government can't block everything objectionable. Find one case where there was a public outrage and you have a fair argument.

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Once again, notoriety has nothing to do with your claim.
we're comparing it to the Obama/wright incident. notoriety is the center piece of my claim. American public focuses on non-issues, as opposed to China. It's a simple comparison.

The public reaction is the focus.

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Did it ever occur to you that maybe the west really doesn't care that much about Eastern politics when it comes down to it? Eastern policy, maybe. But Eastern politics?
Oh, I know that. I'm just saying, eastern politics doesn't care about scandals. I've given a posible reason why he was fired that was due to competency and since so little is known about the single incident you outlined, there isn't any reason why it can't be possible.

You can ask around. It's rare, if not unique for a Chinese official to be fired or sidelined due to sexual activity.

Plus, the focus is public outrage.

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Furthermore, since when does the news reporting something let alone reporting something in depth have any bearing on whether or not it is happening?
So if news doesn't have any bearing on the news, what does?

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Fact is, you stated that other countries don't care about sex scandals and only care about one's ability to perform their job when your own country did the exact opposite. They ousted a finance minister who was doing a good job forcing him to resign because of his sex scandal.
You took a single incident where the sex scandal hasn't even been proven. It is very likely that the man was using government money to pay for the affair. I don't care about the government but the public reaction because this is a contrast with the Obama/wright incident in the USA. It's about political culture and not government.

And don't take it personally. The United States' political culture can't be top notch at everything.


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