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Old May 10, 2008, 09:14 am   #73 (permalink) (top)
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Jack,

"Nor do I see in the premise of atheism any reason why an atheist couldn't accept the idea of an afterlife.... the definition of atheism says nothing about it requiring a dependency on science."

I am a little confused by your comment. It appears that we are coming from the same page, so why the previous disagreements?

The evidence I have uncovered suggests, while an afterlife exists, there is no such God, deity, spiritual beings involved that religion states. It is simply another dimension in time and space. In some ways similar to Earth - in other ways quite different.

There is a fascinating book called Voyages into the Unknown written by Bruce Moen, an OOBE traveller, who explains that this next dimension is divided into different territories of belief systems, rather like Earth is broken up by different continents and countries.

One area is known as the religious belief system territory. This is where those who worship a particular God end up. So, the delicious irony is Christians, for example, who believe in Jesus, will have these beliefs mirrored back to them, thus confirming their religious creed all along. And further along there will be the territory for Muslims, Buddhists and so on.

Matter in this next dimension immediately creates and then mirror's back each person's belief systems at the time of their physical death. And why some atheists (oops, there's that word again) have difficulty initially embracing this new world, as their ego stops them from accepting it is real.

Brue Moen... from Wiki

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Bruce Moen from Colorado, USA is an author and international lecturer as well as an engineering consultant in his own firm. He claims to be able to explore the afterlife and to do 'retrievals'. Doing retrievals means making contact with people who are lost or 'stuck' after death with the purpose of helping them out of their isolation and back into the 'heavens'. This technique is based on the Lifeline program at The Monroe Institute.

He has written several books about this subject and leads 10 to 15 workshops annually, teaching participants how to perform those retrievals.

Moen has also stated that he is working on an "Afterlife Communication Device," like a "telephone" which will enable direct communication with the deceased without the need for special esoteric knowledge or techniques. [1]
Part of being an atheist is being skeptical so I did a little digging into Moen and the Monroe Institute. To attend a week long seminar is $2 grand. Their membership fees start at $50 and progress up to $10,000 (or beyond) They even have a program called Intuitave Investing. Attendance to that is $1000 and keep your check book open...

I have little "faith" in those that profit from people in mourning. It's bad enough the funeral business and the government does it. Seems everyone wants a piece of the pie.


That you may retain your self-respect, it is better to displease the people by doing what you know is right, than to temporarily please them by doing what you know is wrong.

W. J. H. Boetcker
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