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The farmers, if they want to keep their business going. Nature going back to its natural form and deer being happier is worth a few people loosing their 'livelihoods'.
How is that ridiculous? Do you believe a few jobs are worth millions of deer's lives?
What state do you live in?
The Bacon Guy, if people want to try to force me to not kill a wasp nest, you know what I would do? I would be a smart house owner and make sure no wasps are building a nest in my house. Hunting kills millions of lives every year, just think about it. Unless hunters can prove that they have the more valid opinion, they they shouldn't argue if hunting gets banned. Hunting is un-needed.
How isn't it? You made a claim that hunters could keep the deer from being overpopulated and from rarely coming onto 'our' land. If you state something, shouldn't you prepared to have evidence or sources which agree with what you said? Unless debating has now turned into "What my opponet has said is 100% true, lets not question them" thing. You made a claim, you have to prove it. Simple.
The way society is going, in 50 years probably very few people would do it to get paid in the developed world.
And the deer wont come onto our property if we fence it off, and they wont need to come on it if we re-introduce natural predators.
They will remove the need for deer to go onto 'our' property, but that doesn't mean the deer wont. Since deer naturally roam everywhere foraging.
Only if they could.... Anyhow, they wont declare war on us, but by us not sharing will just cause more problems. See what has happened when we wont share with animals? Species go extinct, and animals are killed for no reason. Not a good outcome, is it?
You aren't a very good model to follow are you? Stop preaching about the ways someone should debate when you are doing it wrong. You sate claims, but you think I have no right to ask you to site your sources. The pot calling the kettle black, eh?
The hunters will get cranky, and they will complain the natural predators are taking 'their catch'. It happens here...people kill natural predators because for some stupid reason they think they will eat all the deer.
How so?
Did I say it was wasted time? I said it was way less time efficient then buying lentils.
People that don't know that you can get protein from other sources, yes.
How is it a problem? It is natural, and we should except it, or put up a fence. For example, yesterday I woke up and noticed some deer ate some of my most valued plants. What did I do, go shoot them? No. I accepted that they didn't know better and it wasn't their fault. The next night I put on protective containers, just in case they came again. They didn't, but in the afternoon I saw all three out my window. What did I do? Go chase them? No. I watched them and they never went to the garden.
You are getting unreasonable now.
Humans may want total control, but unless they kill every other species, they wont get it. Hunting is a bandage solution to the greater problem of what we created. Humans create so many problems, and we try to fix them, but we will soon learn we can't fix nature's problems (which we created) with people, nature will have to fix nature. |