[Milton Bradley]

Quote by: Technosoul "forcing your views on us" you said. Being you said "us" I must ask what collective you represent as that "us" group. How can you even dare use the term "us" if you do not like collectives? Sound more like an "us" verses "them" agenda you have, which hardly represents any discription of individualism that I know of. Is "us" the wealthy few? Is "us" the gun lobby? Is "us" the Ron Paul collective?

I qualified who the "us" is in this scenario, it is those of us who do not subscribe to your view that all must participate in these socialist collectives.


The law allows you to create what they propose without coercing people who do not wish to participate, but yet the legislations drafters don't seem willing to allow anybody to opt out. That, my friend, is government force, and it's unjustified.


What I want to know is why? Why can you not allow people to opt out?

Quote by: Technosoul Tell me how a country can remain in order without law?

So, a lack of personal health insurance equals a lack of law?


I'd like to see you defend that contention.

Quote by: Technosoul Why did the peaceful folks in some Western town go out and hire someone to bring order to their town so that the drunk happy nuts did not distroy any sense of security they so desired?

I know I'm supposed to be playing the part of "drunk happy nut" in this senario, but all I am really trying to do is prevent you from being able to steal my income.

Quote by: Technosoul "Now I can see where you are really coming from, but when you suggest you might start shooting people if Democrats impose mandatory health insurance then you better get some when the Homeland Department of Security comes knocking, you will need it.

Hehehe, no wonder there is such misunderstanding, and ill will in these forums, ah, they are so ripe with misunderstandings.


My point was that I will stop reporting income to be taxed if they insist I join the eighty percent tax bracket. Sorry, but I'm not going to pay for the population explosion of inner city youth that is a result of this clealry revolutionary legislation.


Now, when they send people to seize my property, or jail me for not being a communist, they'll be the ones using force, and they'll be the ones dealth with as the situation requires.


However, don't discount the fact that this legislation could make me become much more comfortable with the idea of becoming a pirate, and looting from people who would steal from me.


Why should I trade labor for a wage if I don't get to keep the wages?

Quote by: Technosoul Now you are a good guy and I respect that you should debate these topics, but am concerned when you use such words as shooting people because I do not want you to be pulled into some secret room for questioning. I am not trying to inject unjustified fear in you but why give them reasons to justify such action agenst you? Why become a person of interest when you can use a better choice of wording to make your case that is less threatening.

I'm sorry, but I just cannot believe that you respect me. If you did, you would understand how important it is that you not use government force to coerce me into a collective I do not support. Because in the end, the government will send people with guns to make me comply, or imprison me for not complying. ( Assuming the shooting does not commence. )


If you're willing to use force, why should I be denied the use of force to defend myself from such aggression?

Quote by: Technosoul "Now enforced payments to a health care system (namely to a insurance company) is something worthy of debate.

It's been debated, it's not for me. I see it as a bad investment on my part.

Quote by: Technosoul Although I am not sure why you do not want affordable health care

Oh, since I disagree with the collective, I must desire the opposite?


I hope you see what a baseless claim that is? To suggest such is silly, and not really even deserving of a reply.

Quote by: Technosoul "Film maker Moore does not like that idea and thinks healthy care should be totally govenmental and not part of a profit-based business.

Yeah, that's how things are done here in the United States.


Collectives can exist here legally, all you need in people willing to participate. ( Hint, hint... )

Quote by: Technosoul You might not like it if you think that you will never need health care. You might not like poor people getting health care form such a program because you can afford to buy private coverage.

Boy, you really are comfortable filling in all the blanks with your own warped ideas, aren't you?


Again, just because I oppose your alleged "solution" doesn't mean I am opposed to the problem.

Quote by: Technosoul And most of all, do not allow anything to drive you to the brink of insanity, stay calm and debate with reason and wisdom. Or if you must, use a grumpy face or bold type. Donate to the Black Phathers or some other revolutionary group but beware, the Watts Riots did not prove to be all that successful. Nor any other such "manifesto".

Again, if you're really concerned for my mental health, get your damned politicians off of my jock, and out of my personal life.


It's not like we don't both know what the problem is.


I think you are getting ready to tell me that it's an anger management issue on my part, which will really send me off the deep end.