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Old May 9, 2008, 02:47 pm   #64 (permalink) (top)
Technosoul
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I'm saying if all you collectivists can't leave room in this nation for non-collectivists, then you shall deserve the fate that awaits you.


When you attempt to use force to coerce me, you are the ones initiating force. My actions will only be in retaliation to your unjust use of force.


I know you like to paint this as if I were the "bad guy" but only because you philosophy lacks real world application, and you mental giants don't seem to have an answer for anything other than forcing people to comply with your perverted sense of justice.


No, we can't all get along. ( But again, only becuse you are comfortable forcing your views onto us. )
"forcing your views on us" you said. Being you said "us" I must ask what collective you represent as that "us" group. How can you even dare use the term "us" if you do not like collectives?

Sound more like an "us" verses "them" agenda you have, which hardly represents any discription of individualism that I know of.

Is "us" the wealthy few? Is "us" the gun lobby? Is "us" the Ron Paul collective?

Tell me how a country can remain in order without law? Why did the peaceful folks in some Western town go out and hire someone to bring order to their town so that the drunk happy nuts did not distroy any sense of security they so desired?

Now I can see where you are really coming from, but when you suggest you might start shooting people if Democrats impose mandatory health insurance then you better get some when the Homeland Department of Security comes knocking, you will need it.

Now you are a good guy and I respect that you should debate these topics, but am concerned when you use such words as shooting people because I do not want you to be pulled into some secret room for questioning. I am not trying to inject unjustified fear in you but why give them reasons to justify such action agenst you? Why become a person of interest when you can use a better choice of wording to make your case that is less threatening.

Now enforced payments to a health care system (namely to a insurance company) is something worthy of debate. Although I am not sure why you do not want affordable health care unless you work for the medical industry. I do not like insurace companies as they add to the expense of medial treatment with their middle-man fees. Film maker Moore does not like that idea and thinks healthy care should be totally govenmental and not part of a profit-based business. You might not like it if you think that you will never need health care. You might not like poor people getting health care form such a program because you can afford to buy private coverage. Miserism is part of the capitalistic thinking for some people who hate compassion with a passion. So you can gripe but don't gripe by shooting people, such action would only promote ideas for more gun control regulation. A repsonsble gun owner should have anger management under control to prevent radical over-reacton.
Just wait four years and vote for someone else. Prevent domestic terrroism by thinking clearly. Use a protest sign not a gun.

And most of all, do not allow anything to drive you to the brink of insanity, stay calm and debate with reason and wisdom. Or if you must, use a grumpy face or bold type. Donate to the Black Phathers or some other revolutionary group but beware, the Watts Riots did not prove to be all that successful. Nor any other such "manifesto".

With exception of Iraq where armed citizen revolution of occupation seems to be working. But who wants that to happen here?
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