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Old May 7, 2008, 08:44 pm   #85 (permalink) (top)
Technosoul
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Today polls show that Hillary is 4 point ahead in Indiana and Obama is 10 points ahead in N. Carolina. I think you had better wait for the outcomes, instead.
Nevertheless, Hillary needs to win all the remaining states with ratio of appx. 70 vs 30, in order to get closer to and/or catch up with Obama.
The elecitons are not won in those polls. As you now know the polls were wrong, Obama won N.C. by a large margin and Hillary edged ahead by a near tie advantage in Indiana. However the rules people had awarded N.C. a lot of extra deligates for moving up their primary.

The popular vote is nearly a tie. However it is only a tie in slight favor of Obama because the rules will not allow them to count two states. So Obama wins because millions of people in two states got cheated out of being counted as voters. Not fair to the people or to HIllary because with those votes she is ahead of Obama in popular votes. (and those states will take part in the final election). How can we honestly not allow those people to have a voice in who the nominee is? Obama does not agree to such fairness in any way, shape, or manner. And yet, wants to be the poster boy for unity and equality. McCain will play that agenst Obama.

The remaining Superdeligates would state their choice right now but they prefer to take a wait-and-see attitude. Why? Because the super deligates are not sure about Obama, he can make great speechs with a lot of fluff and can get all the black votes that Democrats always get anyway, But Clinton is getting conservative votes, and votes from the farmers and hard hat workers, and the now important spanish voting block. Obama is seen as too liberal for those fense sitters who go for the canidate that can best create jobs and not raise taxes, which is Clintons stated goal. Also they feel Obama will not be strong enough as Commander and Chief which gives McCain some "points" to point to his self, where as Clinton would be a strong Commander and Chief. Obama's experience as a social worker might not work on those guys in Iran, as he imagines it would. So the Super Deligates are holding back on pledging support with Obama in the hopes that something will break to justify giving the nod to Clinton, and that is what she is hoping for, the odds that 60 percent of the Super Deligates will find a reason to unite behind her and her platform ideas which have more substance, to reduce the risk of a loss aganest McCain also, who has already found a lot to attack Obama over, which he has not found concerning Clinton.

I love Obamas liberal sounding speech and would enjoy hearing such words for years to come, but I also want to make sure that McCain is not elected by his gaining that moderate voting block. And CNN is busy playing all those number games with the intent of forcing Clinton to resign. But she has talked to the Super Deligates and the Democratic big shots and has selected to continue until the race reaches a real ending, mostly at her own expense, which is unfair for CNN to do. But CNN are supported by advertising from energy companies, prescription drug companies, and insureance companies, and Chevron and chemical companies. So go figure!

Bottom line - count all the votes and make sure the real will of those two states are represented in this primary, rules or no rules we must do what is fair to the voters.

Let the Super Deligates determine when it is time to unite the party behind one canidate, they are experts in making such determinations when so needed. It is not CNN or other sources to say when to unite and end the primary race.

FACT: If the Democrats had used the same primary rules as did the Republicans then Hillary would have already been their canidate, and no one would be 2nd guessing about Obama anymore. So Democrats... live with what you created, and let things run out as intended.
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