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Old May 7, 2008, 11:19 am   #42 (permalink) (top)
Technosoul
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That's just not true. Scientists would very much like to explain how the universe came to be. The problem is that science doesn't currently have to tools, and may never have the tools, to examine anything within a Planck time of the origin. However, that doesn't mean that scientists don't try. Many have proposed some sort of quantum fluctuation similar to those that have been observed in empty space. Hawking introduced imaginary time into his singularity calculations which enabled him to run the universe backwards past the big bang. The trouble is that he found an identical universe on the other side.

There is also the matter that you seem confused about science, methodological naturalism and pantheism (I mean even more so than in spelling). There is no logical connection between science and pantheism.
If Hawking found a identical universe by going in reverse past the Big Bang then this would suggest that our universe is one copy of many copies. So who or what is printing off all those copies.... king haw haw? (hawking spelled backwards). That mythological idea would suggest that there were perhaps billions of reproduced universes that all evolved in a identical way.

Or (to edge into speculation) could it be that the count-back point of "1" acted like a mirror because Hawking had no other additional terms or "values" to place on his numbering other then those known about on this side of the Big Bang? What if the values (names) used on the other side of the big bang are totally different then on this side? If the math beyond the Big Bang was of a novel structure then he could have discovered that and therefore visioned in that new set of phyics a different kind of para-landscape that does not reproduce this one as it's clone.
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