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Quote by: walrus I don’t think we have any natural rights as such, we have desires but not rights. Rights are simply laws designed to protect members of a society from oppression and if there is any intrinsic value to rights, it is probably from a development of our need to coexist.
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Hell, that's a good a place as any, Walrus. A naturally agreed upon right. still works... (though you put it in such a depressing way...)