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Impenitent · Nov 10, 2003, 11:51 pm

</span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (fedfem,)

I was not accusing you of being a nazi--just saying you were interpreting through a lens. I am probably doing the same. I also did not mean the ubermensch was an end, only that it is part of evolution that we attain such.

I still think he would see the US power as the weak one in these days.

Nietzsche was not a nihilist and would not just sit back and watch.

As far as my guess--I will throw out PRIDE as a wild guess.<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'>

1. no, not attained through evolution, willed by the herd... that sounds contradictory but it isn't because humans are herd animals and one starts as a human

2. the weak one? no he'd see the masses screaming for peace at any cost as the weak ones... he'd see the us military as doing what good humans do...

3. yes I know he wasn't a nihilist but the destroyer of values...

4. not pride at all... the last "sin" of Zarathustra was pity... pity for other humans... that is what Nietzsche despised, pity... christianity, the religon of pity

makes you see Nietzsche in a new light doesn't it? not pro herd, not pro society, not pro communalism...

Zarathustra book 3, section 55 "the spirit of gravity", part 29...

"Why so hard!"—said to the diamond one day the charcoal; "are we then not near relatives?"—Why so soft? O my brethren; thus do I ask you: are ye then not—my brethren?

Why so soft, so submissive and yielding? Why is there so much negation and abnegation in your hearts? Why is there so little fate in your looks?

And if ye will not be fates and inexorable ones, how can ye one day—conquer with me?

And if your hardness will not glance and cut and chip to pieces, how can ye one day—create with me?

For the creators are hard. And blessedness must it seem to you to press your hand upon millenniums as upon wax,—

Blessedness to write upon the will of millenniums as upon brass,—harder than brass, nobler than brass. Entirely hard is only the noblest.

This new table, O my brethren, put I up over you: Become hard!—"

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Impenitent Hot Lava Posts: 1,859	</span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (fedfem,) I was not accusing you of being a nazi--just saying you were interpreting through a lens. I am probably doing the same. I also did not mean the ubermensch was an end, only that it is part of evolution that we attain such. I still think he would see the US power as the weak one in these days. Nietzsche was not a nihilist and would not just sit back and watch. As far as my guess--I will throw out PRIDE as a wild guess.<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'> 1. no, not attained through evolution, willed by the herd... that sounds contradictory but it isn't because humans are herd animals and one starts as a human 2. the weak one? no he'd see the masses screaming for peace at any cost as the weak ones... he'd see the us military as doing what good humans do... 3. yes I know he wasn't a nihilist but the destroyer of values... 4. not pride at all... the last "sin" of Zarathustra was pity... pity for other humans... that is what Nietzsche despised, pity... christianity, the religon of pity makes you see Nietzsche in a new light doesn't it? not pro herd, not pro society, not pro communalism... Zarathustra book 3, section 55 "the spirit of gravity", part 29... "Why so hard!"—said to the diamond one day the charcoal; "are we then not near relatives?"—Why so soft? O my brethren; thus do I ask you: are ye then not—my brethren? Why so soft, so submissive and yielding? Why is there so much negation and abnegation in your hearts? Why is there so little fate in your looks? And if ye will not be fates and inexorable ones, how can ye one day—conquer with me? And if your hardness will not glance and cut and chip to pieces, how can ye one day—create with me? For the creators are hard. And blessedness must it seem to you to press your hand upon millenniums as upon wax,— Blessedness to write upon the will of millenniums as upon brass,—harder than brass, nobler than brass. Entirely hard is only the noblest. This new table, O my brethren, put I up over you: Become hard!—" "I really like this jacket, but the sleeves are much too long..." insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results...