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GPIRS88 · May 2, 2008, 05:35 pm

Well even if this Tibet fad is over and no one seems to care about the issue I just want to know what you guys think

Every cause, every belief and every call for action whether its helping the less fortunate, stopping a war or saving the environment all have people within these groups with a positive (hopefully) objective.

But do the means to achieve these objectives matter to you as an individual? if you believed your cause was just would you accomplish your goals through any means no matter how dishonest or unethical?

and how would you handle and come to terms with these actions?

the reason why i bring this up is because in previous threads i ve made my position clear that I dont believe the Free Tibet movement is a justifiable cause that could accomplish such a huge objective of liberating a chunk of China. And if this was an issue of Human Rights than North Korea should be in the cross hair of world opinion.

However the events that have unfolded in South Korea recently has been very interesting to follow.

YouTube - Chinese thugs Attack Pro Tibet: Outrage Torch Relay in Korea

^Nationalist attacking Tibetan protesters who many of them (korean ethnically) are trying to change China's policy of sending North Korean defectors back to their oppressive dictatorship to suffer in a labor camp as punishment for escaping their Great Leader (or worse)

YouTube - 2008 Conflicts in Seoul, the Truth and Lies

^ again at the same time we see evidence of media bias and blur in the story of how these events unfolded with critics laying out the evidence and charging Tibetan protesters with framing students and sending out a bad P.R. message.

Could it be propaganda? maybe? it wouldnt be surprising or the first time. But based on the actions of these Tibetan protesters charging and attacking torch barriers, it wouldnt be surprising if these allegations turned out to be true either.

What do you guys think?

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GPIRS88 Molten Ash Posts: 77	Does the end justify the means? Well even if this Tibet fad is over and no one seems to care about the issue I just want to know what you guys think Every cause, every belief and every call for action whether its helping the less fortunate, stopping a war or saving the environment all have people within these groups with a positive (hopefully) objective. But do the means to achieve these objectives matter to you as an individual? if you believed your cause was just would you accomplish your goals through any means no matter how dishonest or unethical? and how would you handle and come to terms with these actions? the reason why i bring this up is because in previous threads i ve made my position clear that I dont believe the Free Tibet movement is a justifiable cause that could accomplish such a huge objective of liberating a chunk of China. And if this was an issue of Human Rights than North Korea should be in the cross hair of world opinion. However the events that have unfolded in South Korea recently has been very interesting to follow. YouTube - Chinese thugs Attack Pro Tibet: Outrage Torch Relay in Korea ^Nationalist attacking Tibetan protesters who many of them (korean ethnically) are trying to change China's policy of sending North Korean defectors back to their oppressive dictatorship to suffer in a labor camp as punishment for escaping their Great Leader (or worse) YouTube - 2008 Conflicts in Seoul, the Truth and Lies ^ again at the same time we see evidence of media bias and blur in the story of how these events unfolded with critics laying out the evidence and charging Tibetan protesters with framing students and sending out a bad P.R. message. Could it be propaganda? maybe? it wouldnt be surprising or the first time. But based on the actions of these Tibetan protesters charging and attacking torch barriers, it wouldnt be surprising if these allegations turned out to be true either. What do you guys think?