[Derek Wolff]

And now I've checked the national crime rates and I am officially as mad as a wet hen because you lied to me. Where the heck did that that figure of a national crime decrease of only 0.4% come from? Between 1987 and 2005 murder dropped nationally by 32.5%.

Those statistics are from 87 to 05 not from 87 to 91. Pay attention next time, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you were not just slinging mud at me. I'm not a Republican by the way. Thank you for assuming.

There's a bubble around you where martial arts are just inherently better than a gun. The motions to disarm a person holding a knife or a pistol are fast and simple. I've practiced with BB guns and magic marker; I have about an 80% survival rate on an opponent who is already holding and pointing their weapon, and I know a lot of people who are better at it than I am. I'm probably not going to believed but its the truth; I hardly ever fail this drill. Got my brother to use the BB gun once and he got mad when he was unable to pull the trigger faster than I could redirect the weapon at him. You can achieve similar results by owning a gun...if you're Billy the Kid.

How far was your buddy? 10 inches? Are you faster than a speeding bullet?
To this argument :

Traditionally you mug people in one of two ways. You get them to put their hands in the air and remove their wallet yourself. Alternatively, you stab them in the back and loot their corpse. This is done because there is always the possibility of a concealed weapon and the criminal does not want to give the victim the chance you are describing. Crime still happens.

Do you think his training and comments are wrong? Would you doubt it if it came out of Chuck Norris' mouth? The main points are in most situations you wont get your gun, and if you actually manage to, there's a very good chance it will be taken off you, and where will that leave you? Dead. All over a wallet (for example)?

No I would certainly not believe Chuck Norris. Personally I would rather hand over my wallet.

Of course they're trying to sell classes! But I'd hardly call thousands of years of martial art principles slanted, they've been around a whoooooole lot longer than guns have.

Its slanted especially in America where there has been a tradition of over glorifying Oriental Martial Arts for the past 30-40 years.

Aussie and his Jujitsu school do not lie. I have not practiced Jujitsu but I hear it is similar to taekwondo, which I can speak about.

Jujitsu is a martial arts based on holds and throws, taekwondo is closer to Karate. In fact the Japanese based Karate on Taekwondo from Korea.

Also, come to think of it Florida is a bad example. The retired population is skyrocketing, and the elderly do not commit very many crimes. The number of criminals has stayed about the same, but per 100,000 it is in deed dropping.

I think the elderly would also make a very good target for violent crime.

You're basing your entire argument on suppositions unsupported by documented fact.

I seem to be the only here that is using some facts.

Seriously though, if COPS cant even stop their guns being taken from them, what chance does average Joe have?

You miss the point that its because cops have close contact with the assaliant, which is why they lose their weapon. If your a citizen and all you have to do is point and shoot, not a lot to worry about. At least the weapon can be tracked if its stolen, can't do that with an illegal sold weapon, which is surprisingly easy to get ahold of.

Suddenly awakened by the sound of someone rapping on a window, Matthew Kovschak called 9-1-1 and grabbed his .357 caliber handgun. According to police, Kovschak warned the prowler that he had a gun and police were on the way. The noise stopped, but only momentarily. Kovschak heard a commotion and then he saw a hand reaching through a broken window pane trying to unlock the back door. After one more warning, Kovschak fired four shots, twice striking the female intruder. Police believe a second suspect fled the scene. (The Ledger, Lakeland, FL, 01/22/08)

Armed Citizen

There you go. A ton of news articles about armed citizens warding off crimnals.