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Old May 2, 2008, 04:52 am   #20 (permalink) (top)
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Deism.

But why postulate a magical being when there is no need to do so. Why couldn't the cause of creation be natural rather than supernatural. If this being that you invent can be eternal, then so can energy and matter.
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This is following the assumption that humans need a higher being as a creator. The result of that assumption is God. Stick true to your faulty assumptions and God needs a creator as well.

I wasn’t really arguing for the existence of god, simply addressing the concept of god as the creator and what created god. If god is a myth then clearly he needs no creator beyond the imaginations of people, but if one accepts the concept of god as the creator of everything then there can be no preceding creator, and if his creation were to include that which we perceive as time, then from our perspective he would only come into existence at the moment of creation, therefore the proposal of there being any prior cause or creator becomes irrelevant.


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