[Winter wind]

I've certainly got the hornet's nest on me.

Quote by: gallo As you must be aware, it isn't the business of science to delve into unsupported spiritualism and to postulate what happened in a time before time. That is the realm of religion

I never said Christianity was science.

As far as science is concerned, energy came into existance at the time of the big bang, i.e., the initial expansion of space/time from a singularity, or the collision of super dimensional membranes (brane theory)

Ah, yes the brane theory. Yet that is also just a theory (I still don't get how universes move in a medium and collide with each other).

But claiming that they know TRUTH would be ridiculous.

Actually, his hypothesis isn't as week [sic] as yours. He hasn't tried to postulate invisible, magical beings in an effort to shut off investigation and fill in what we don't know. You have. Ever hear of Occam's Razor? "Entities should not be multiplied beyond necessity." Why not just look for natural causes for natural events. Why answer problems with, "God can change the rules if He wants"?

See, because his answer makes zero logical sense. The Big Bang didn't just happen. Energy was not always in existence. The natural state of everything is zero. The most stable state is non-existence. Logically, nothing should exist, yet things do. Why? Why should any law of science or anything else exist. It would make the most sense that nothing existed. So why does it? My theory is that something disturbed the nothingness. And anything that can accomplish that is beyond our comprehension.



It is ridiculous isn't it? I don't blame you for calling it that.

I'm not sure about Zhavric, but I wouldn't make any claim about the eternal existance of energy or anything else. In short, we don't know and we don't have the tools to find out right now. I can't speak to the future.

Haha, logical enough.

But why invent magical, supernatural causes for natural events?

Again, it's my own faith experience that drives me to "invent" said supernatural being. But since the experience doesn't count as fact...

Quote by: Morality Games Deus ex machina.

It is a religion after all. (what did you expect)

Which is extremely inappropriate. That is a task for theoretical, rationalistic sciences.

So where did all this energy come from according to scientific theory? I'm curious to know your stance.

I don't know. But it cannot be observed, and is therefore non-empirical, and is therefore non-practical science. Hence, it is regulated to theoretical physics.

You act like I ignore facts. I don't. You agree science has not reached an answer to why the conservation of energy was broken.
I'm not acting against facts, I'm acting in the absence of facts.

I'm willing to change as soon as the facts are in, but they aren't.