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Quote by: Winter wind  Conservation of energy says that energy always existed. Is that ultra-lame too? |
Actually, conservation of energy doesn't say that. The Law of Conservation of Energy, most strictly stated as the 1st Law of Thermodynamics, states that in any isolated system the total amount of energy remains constant. Over time physicists have fount that the law applies to all levels and kinds of energy, including work, mechanical energy, heat, and anything that can be converted into heat. As Einstein and Wolfgang Pauli have shown, it even applied to the subatomic world as well as galaxies. Probably it applies to the cosmos too. But no one knows if that is actually true. We can't observe the boundaries of the universe so we can't be sure if it is an isolated, closed, or even an open system. And we have no way of observing the source of any outside energy. In short (too late for that I guess), the law of conservation of energy applies to the observable universe. If we can't observe it, we can't know.
As you must be aware, it isn't the business of science to delve into unsupported spiritualism and to postulate what happened in a time before time. That is the realm of religion.
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Quote by: Winter wind Wait, when did energy "come into existence". Isn't that the same as creating? |
As far as science is concerned, energy came into existance at the time of the big bang, i.e., the initial expansion of space/time from a singularity, or the collision of super dimensional membranes (brane theory). If spiritualists want to postulate that their god did it, OK. There aren't any observations the support or debunk that anyway. With no evidence one way or the other, if someone wants to postulate a magic being they can do so. But claiming that they know TRUTH would be ridiculous.