[Charlatan]

I was thinking about creation, and I thought what created God in the
creationists argument. They say He always was, and always will
always be, but we have to start somewhere. I ask first, is creation
God, or is God seperate from creation? If God is creation, then the
only thing that was created was stars and planets, but even then they
were created through heat, heat coming from something, so is God heat?
If God is heat, then there should be no bible, as heat only created
the planets, and the rest occurred naturally, from the forming of the
ozone to the beginning of life, that was all 'created' by the planet
being the right distance from the sun, so creation created the planets
and then just sat there waiting. That means that God created planets,
and gasses, but did not actively try to create them.

If God is seperate from creation, something I am sure you will all
agree, then how did He create? He must have learned somehow that by
doing this, that happens, and so forth. If one is sepearate from
creative forces, or the creation of the planets, being through heat
and an explosion, then how did He do it? What created God? You say He
always was and will be, but if He is not the heat in the universe,
being creation and a side lined force in the evolution of man, then
what is He? He surely cannot take form if a force such as heat, so
must be seperate to creation, using it as he sees fit, but then what
did He do? He created planets and then talked to people, saying that
He had made them, which in a very obscure way He did, being the
conductor of heat in the beginning, but then, how did He know how to
conduct heat? He must have had experience with it, or just made the
universe and fluked the creation of man, as wisdom is something that is
learned through experience - you can't know something until you 'do' it
unless it is not wisdom but something else. What do you call wisdom
that is not learned? You call it instinct, and instinct is for a
purpose, and instinct is there to help you survive, so that means that
God needs to survive by making planets? Clearly not credible.

So what do you get that supercedes wisdom? If you know something
without learning it, what is it? Conscious requires us to learn
things that we do not know, because there is no way we could know them,
so taking the know out of it means that there must have been some
learning to the ordeal, and a lot of fooling around to get it right.
This means that God has gone through an 'evolution' of some sort,
learning things, and that it woudl be difficult for something to talk
to people unless He learned the dialect too. In fact early man could
not speak at all, but used body language to convey their messages,
and did not have ten generations of children and then go through a
flood wiping out the whole world. The first man could not speak nor
make a bow to hunt with, as suggested in Genesis, these things he too
learned.

So God needs to be creation for a creationist to have any ground to
stand on, and that means God is heat and played no part in creating man
specifically, and the bible should be regarded as tales and bloodlines
and nothing more. If God was seperate from creation, then He evolved
and still did not play a part in the creation of man specifically. All
the things in the universe are in balance, so there is no way that
an evolving God could have created them to work out so well, so, maybe
God did not create the universe, but writes it into scripture so that
people will think He did?

Unless God does not make sense, then why try to understand?